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Article #1296Re: Bending of Light by the Sun NEVER ACCURATELY MEASURED.
From: Eric Gisse
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:30
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:30
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On Mar 25, 1:48 pm, hw@..(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:41:09 -0700 (PDT), Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > >On Mar 24, 2:26 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote in > >sci.physics.relativity: > >> On Mar 23, 4:18 pm, hw@..(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: > > >> > On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:33:51 -0000, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> > >> > wrote: > > >> > >"Dr. Henri Wilson" <hw@..> wrote in message > >> > >news:ck3gs49ng1oq1ibl146j29is59vsqd1a9h@4ax.com... > >> > >>I don't believe any of the experiments claiming measurement the bending of > >> > >> light by the sun has been at all accurate. The reason I say this is that > >> > >> the > >> > >> movement of a star's image as it is seen to approach the sun's edge > >> > >> progressively slows, stops then reverses, making it impossible to tell how > >> > >> close the light rays are passing by the actual edge..and that is a crucial > >> > >> factor. Eddington's experiment was just a publicity stunt and a farce. > > >> > >> Gravitational bending of light and lensing are a natural consequence of > >> > >> Newtonian theory. Light is accelerated by gravity just like anything else. > >> > >> It > >> > >> is also slowed by interaction with the solar wind and the sun's > >> > >> atmosphere. > > >> > >Most of it is the Coriolis effect. > >> > >It take 8 minutes for light to travel from the Sun to Earth. > >> > >In that time Earth travels 8 * 360/(1year * 365 days * 24 hours * 60 > >> > >minutes) = > >> > > 0.0055 degrees or 0.33 arc minutes or 20 arc seconds from a straight > >> > >line connecting the Earth, Sun and a distant star. Eddington was a dork. > >> > >http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu/(Gh)/guides/mtr/fw/gifs/coriolis.mov > > >> > Yes, the whole past procedure appears to be flawed. But Eddington and Einstein > >> > knew there were thousands of little eric geeses around who would lap up > >> > anything that resembled science fiction. > > >> Then look at the more recent observations. You do know there have been > >> recent observations...right? > > >Earlier observations were fraud but recent are not....right? That is, > >it was fraud that converted Albert the Plagiarist into Divine Albert > >whereas recent observations just confirmed the Divinity....right? > > >http://www.cieletespace.fr/evenement/relativit-les-preuves-taient-fau... > >RELATIVITE: LES PREUVES ETAIENT FAUSSES > >"Le monde entier a cru pendant plus de cinquante ans à une théorie non > >vérifiée. Car, nous le savons aujourdhui, les premières preuves, > >issues notamment dune célèbre éclipse de 1919, nen étaient pas. Elles > >reposaient en partie sur des manipulations peu avouables visant à > >obtenir un résultat connu à lavance, et sur des mesures entachées > >dincertitudes, quand il ne sagissait pas de fraudes caractérisées." > > >http://www.cieletespaceradio.fr/index.php/2008/05/26/390-histoire-des... > >"Au début du XXème siècle, des scientifiques comme le Britannique > >Arthur Eddington avaient tant à coeur de vérifier la théorie de la > >relativité qu'ils ont tout mis en oeuvre pour que leurs expériences > >soient probantes." > >(ECOUTEZ!) > > >> > Nothing wrong with gravitational lensing though. It is plainly Newtonian. > > >> Except it is wrong by a factor of two. > > >Which equation is consistent with the gravitational redshift factor > >1+V/c^2 experimentally confirmed by Pound and Rebka: Einstein's 1911 > >equation c'=c(1+V/c^2) given by Newton's emission theory of light, or > >Einstein's 1915 "improved" equation c'=c(1+2V/c^2)? > > Good one Pencho.....when he fudged his equation to match the sun's supposed > bending he stuffed it up for the Pound Rebka result. Idiot. Einstein created his theory _before_ the observation was made. The prediction came _before_ the observation. > > >Pentcho Valev > >pva...@yahoo.com > > Harry Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T) > > www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm. > > .....
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