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Re: EINSTEINIANA: THE FINAL PARALYSIS

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From: Benj
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:20
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On Feb 15, 12:23 pm, gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Europeans don't consider science a religion any more.

I truly doubt this. But I'd say they do consider it less of a
"religion" than Americans do.

> Hippies
> did not sing of no religion, no government, no countries but
> peace on Earth. No science? Forget it.

Um, Actually they did!  Can you "Imagine" it?

> You got it that
> Pencho is agnosticism. He has that instinct, most don't.
> Agnosticism works for Donald Trump.

Here's the problem. Lefties have taken over science with the argument
that religion is myth and fairy tales. They are STILL trying to reduce
life to mechanisms. OK, so they've advanced from mechanical gears of
the old days, but the "wheelworks" are still the model of choice.

I'm going to tell you all where you are making your mistakes.  Imagine
if you will that religion is not made-up myth, but rather revealed
science of the HIGHEST order. Imagine if you will that some advanced
entities popped into earth and for reasons known only to themselves
tried to impart a bit of the highest science and knowledge to
earthlings. As you can guess, this is about the same as YOU trying to
impart our understanding of physics to an ant hill!

So what happens is that mankind doesn't quite get it. They try to get
it but simply don't have the broad understanding and tools to do so,
especially at the time of the revelation. BUT, there is NO doubt that
these early earthlings had the ability to understand that these
visitors were saying things of advanced importance, even if they
couldn't understand them. They clearly could tell that these guys KNEW
SOMETHING!  So the bottom line is that being so impressed, they
recognized that VALUE of the encounter and then tried to preserve and
codify what they could understand of it. It is that remnant that
became what we call "religion" today.

Note that this is quite different from "faith-based" physics where
certain theories such as "evolution", or GR, or whatever develop and
because of a vested interest by the establishment they are taught AS
IF they are "revealed truth" but in this case they are merely the
myths of men. There are no "advanced beings" involved. In fact, it's
usually the opposite.

Hence the mistake is that religion of atheism has come to reject other
religions as myth and lies. Atheism then turns establishment dogma
into a new religion. The truth is that established historical
religions may in fact be science of the HIGHEST order. Certainly, man
has not recorded accurately nor understood the basis of it, and
furthermore, over time the record gets altered and distorted in many
ways.  But the way to gain from religion is the same way one gains
from history. History may be "bunk", but one has to ask just WHAT is
the basis of what is being said, and even moreso, what kind of
heretofore undiscovered knowledge might lie behind the stories and
myth?

Once one is onto that idea one not only discovers just how little we
actually know about our world, but also how arrogant we all are in
thinking that we know it all when we can't even coherently explain
some of the simplest actions.

Science is about generating theories of reality and then testing them
against that reality. There is NOTHING in science that says that these
invented theories all must come from certain established "peers" or
even from science itself, for that matter.  To try to force that rule
is just plain stoopid.  Got it?
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