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Re: EINSTEINIANA: THE REVOLUTION THAT DID NOT TAKE PLACE

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From: namekuseijin
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:58
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Sure, it's just in time for a new Jewish Holocaust, denial and book
flaming.  A good time to throw the old Nobel-laureate Jew into the
hatred of neo fascist times and blame GR for the economic crisis as
well as to waste precious paytaxers' money into worthless experiments
to measure consequences of theoretical models to explain the behaviour
of humongous bodies in a universe that was here before us and will be
after us without much concern for our brief stay.

Before that, though, just be sure to have some quantum gravity theory
in place to deal with quite a few of GR's predictions with positive
results by experiment, like gravitational lensing bending light paths
and time dilation as experienced from highly precise clocks at
different heights on Earth.  It may well be that Einstein's hope that
c is constant is not true for other "universes", but it seems to work
just ok for our vast local universe just "nearby", which is to say GR
is about as good for our universe as Newton's mechanical laws of
motion are just as good for our small daily human experience.

It's all about context, really.

On Feb 2, 8:13 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=5538
> Paul Davies: "Was Einstein wrong? Einstein's famous equation E=mc2 is
> the only scientific formula known to just about everyone. The "c" here
> stands for the speed of light. It is one of the most fundamental of
> the basic constants of physics. Or is it? In recent years a few
> maverick scientists have claimed that the speed of light might not be
> constant at all. Shock, horror! Does this mean the next Great
> Revolution in Science is just around the corner?"
>
> http://smashingtelly.com/2009/01/16/einsteins-biggest-blunder/
> "The theory of Relativity might be more usefully called the theory of
> the constancy of the speed of light. So what if the speed of light
> wasn’t constant?"
>
> http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E03E7D8143FF932A05751...
> "As propounded by Einstein as an audaciously confident young patent
> clerk in 1905, relativity declares that the laws of physics, and in
> particular the speed of light -- 186,000 miles per second -- are the
> same no matter where you are or how fast you are moving. Generations
> of students and philosophers have struggled with the paradoxical
> consequences of Einstein's deceptively simple notion, which underlies
> all of modern physics and technology, wrestling with clocks that speed
> up and slow down, yardsticks that contract and expand and bad jokes
> using the word ''relative.''......''Perhaps relativity is too
> restrictive for what we need in quantum gravity,'' Dr. Magueijo said.
> ''We need to drop a postulate, perhaps the constancy of the speed of
> light.''
>
> "http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/519406/posts
> "A GROUP of astronomers and cosmologists has warned that the laws
> thought to govern the universe, including Albert Einstein's theory of
> relativity, must be rewritten. The group, which includes Professor
> Stephen Hawking and Sir Martin Rees, the astronomer royal, say such
> laws may only work for our universe but not in others that are now
> also thought to exist. "It is becoming increasingly likely that the
> rules we had thought were fundamental through time and space are
> actually just bylaws for our bit of it," said Rees, whose new book,
> Our Cosmic Habitat, is published next month. "Creation is emerging as
> even stranger than we thought." Among the ideas facing revision is
> Einstein's belief that the speed of light must always be the same -
> 186,000 miles a second in a vacuum. There is growing evidence that
> light moved much faster during the early stages of our universe. Rees,
> Hawking and others are so concerned at the impact of such ideas that
> they recently organised a private conference in Cambridge for more
> than 30 leading cosmologists."
>
> Joao Magueijo, PLUS VITE QUE LA LUMIERE, Dunod, 2003, pp. 298-299:
> "La racine du mal etait clairement la relativite restreinte. Tous ces
> paradoxes resultaient d'effets bien connus comme la contraction des
> longueurs, la dilatation du temps, ou E=mc^2, tous des predictions
> directes de la relativite restreinte. (...) La consequence en etait
> inevitable: pour edifier une theorie coherente de la gravite
> quantique, quelle qu'elle soit, nous [Joao Magueijo et Lee Smolin]
> devions commencer par abandonner la relativite restreinte. (...) Mais,
> comme nous l'avons vu, celle-ci repose sur deux principes
> independants. Le premier est la relativite du mouvement, le second la
> constance de la vitesse de la lumiere. Une des solutions possibles a
> notre probleme pouvait etre d'abandonner la relativite du mouvement.
> (...) C'est une possibilite bien sur, mais nous avons choisi
> l'alternative evidente: preserver la relativite du mouvement, mais
> admettre qu'a de tres hautes energies, la vitesse de la lumiere ne
> soit plus constante."
>
> Needless to say, Joao Magueijo, Lee Smolin, Paul Davies, Martin Rees,
> Stephen Hawking etc. did not drop Einstein's 1905 false light
> postulate in the end, at least not officially. But they extracted
> maximum career and money from this particular heresy and then left the
> sinking ship. The world will never again be interested in whether or
> not the postulate is false. Accordingly, people are free to sing or
> not to sing "Yes we all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity"
> and "Divine Einstein":
>
> "YES WE ALL BELIEVE IN RELATIVITY, RELATIVITY, RELATIVITY"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PkLLXhONvQ
>
> "DIVINE EINSTEIN"
> (No-one's as dee-vine as Albert Einstein not Maxwell, Curie, or B-o-o-
> ohr!)http://www.haverford.edu/physics-astro/songs/divine.htm
>
> Pentcho Valev
> pva...@yahoo.com
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