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Article #1391Re: Interpreting the Michelson-Morley experiment in 1887
From: doug
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:04
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:04
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NoEinstein wrote: > On Feb 8, 5:35 pm, doug <x...@xx.com> wrote: > >>NoEinstein wrote: >> >>>On Feb 5, 7:53 pm, hw@..(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: >> >>>Dear Henri: Whoa! M-M was specifically ASSUMED to be able to detect >>>the SLOWING of light (a velocity change) due to having such rays be >>>shined��from the moving Earth��toward the (stationary) ether. Or... >>>it was supposed to detect the DRAG on light due to the luminiferous >>>ether. Before you wise-off about ANYTHING relative to M-M, please >>>realize that it was me who discovered that such experiment lacks the >>>require CONTROL. And it was me who designed an X, Y, and Z >>>interferometer which easily detects Earth's motion in the Cosmos. >>>Einstein himself said: "If any Earth mounted instrument is capable of >>>detecting Earth's velocity, my theories are proved wrong." So, by his >>>own words I disprove that moron! >> >>Since you have never demonstrated anything wrong with the MMX, >>you have done nothing. You claim to have done an experiment but >>you have shown nothing. You make all these silly claims and only >>look stupid. Study some actual physics. >> >> >> >> >>>Two years or so ago when you read my post describing that the "Red >>>Shift" of more distant light sources is due to the AGING of light, NOT >>>to the expansion of the Universe�as might result from there having >>>been a Big Bang�you attacked me for "stealing" your idea. After that, >>>I have humored you. Now, you are getting way OUT of your league to >>>even comment regarding any of my NEW science truths. >> >>Ralph lies about his degrees, he lies about the experiments that >>have been done etc. He is at your level of understanding so >>why should he not comment on your nonsense? >> >> >> >> >>>I feel sorry for anyone, like you, who hides behind purported degrees >>>as if your notions about anything are worth a damn. Be it known: Your >>>notions aren't worth a damn. You are just a one-notion, armchair, >>>science groupie whose ideas have long faded from viability. �� >>>NoEinstein �� >> >>You getting testy today. Are you beginning to realize that you >>have accomplished nothing? >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:57:46 -0800 (PST), NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> >>>>wrote: >> >>>>>On Feb 3, 6:57 am, SolomonW <Solom...@nospamAustraliaMail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 00:22:31 -0800 (PST), Pentcho Valev wrote: >> >>>>>>>(2) The negative result of the Michelson-Morley experiment confirms >>>>>>>the hypothesis that the speed of light is independent of the speed of >>>>>>>the light source (the future 1905 light postulate of Einstein) >> >>>>>>Since we are in 1887, there is no hypothesis that the speed of light is >>>>>>independent of the speed of the light source. >> >>>>>>actually Michelson and Morley were quite stunned with their results and >>>>>>could not explain it. >> >>>>>Dear SolomonW: M-M was a wrongly designed experiment which was >>>>>incapable of measuring the velocity of light or the velocity of >>>>>anything else. >> >>>>This is crap. The MMX was a beautifully designed and performed experiment that >>>>had nothing whatsoever to do with measuring the speed of light. >>>>Its sole intention was to measure the speed of the earth through the then >>>>assumed absolute aether. >>>>Its results appeared to prove the nonexistence of the latter...but Lorentz and >>>>Fitzgerald got around that by suggesting that mass and time contracted on >>>>objects that were moving wrt the absolute aether. It was virtually impossible >>>>to disprove this theory. >> >>>>Ballistic theory explains the null result simply by stating that light moves at >>>>c wrt its source and everything at rest in the source frame. So all light moves >>>>around the MMX apparatus at the same speed c (wrt all components), irrespective >>>>of its orientation. >>>>Einstein fluked the same result, by claiming that light moves at c in any >>>>frame....and of course everything in the MMX IS at rest in the same frame. >> >>>>>Pentcho knows that Einstein was wrong. But he keeps >>>>>insisting on making arguments which I have made outmoded. M-M simply >>>>>lacked a CONTROL. So, no "rubber rulers" and warped space-time are >>>>>needed to explain the nil results. The following links should edify >>>>>THINKING people who aren�t infected with Einstein's Disease. � >>>>>NoEinstein � >> >>>>You, unfortunately, lack both control and brains.... >> >>>>Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T) >> >>>>www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm. >> >>>>.....- Hide quoted text - >> >>- Show quoted text - > > > Folks: Doug is a persona non grata to science, and to me in > particular. :-}~ - - - ! NE I am surprised that you do not appreciate the efforts that I have made to help you learn from your mistakes. I have shown you where you are wrong so that you can learn some physics and not look so stupid. Do you want to look stupid?
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