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Re: Interpreting the Michelson-Morley experiment in 1887

#1391
From: doug
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:04
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NoEinstein wrote:

> On Feb 8, 5:35 pm, doug <x...@xx.com> wrote:
> 
>>NoEinstein wrote:
>>
>>>On Feb 5, 7:53 pm, hw@..(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote:
>>
>>>Dear Henri:  Whoa!  M-M was specifically ASSUMED to be able to detect
>>>the SLOWING of light (a velocity change) due to having such rays be
>>>shined��from the moving Earth��toward the (stationary) ether.  Or...
>>>it was supposed to detect the DRAG on light due to the luminiferous
>>>ether.  Before you wise-off about ANYTHING relative to M-M, please
>>>realize that it was me who discovered that such experiment lacks the
>>>require CONTROL.  And it was me who designed an X, Y, and Z
>>>interferometer which easily detects Earth's motion in the Cosmos.
>>>Einstein himself said: "If any Earth mounted instrument is capable of
>>>detecting Earth's velocity, my theories are proved wrong."  So, by his
>>>own words I disprove that moron!
>>
>>Since you have never demonstrated anything wrong with the MMX,
>>you have done nothing. You claim to have done an experiment but
>>you have shown nothing. You make all these silly claims and only
>>look stupid.  Study some actual physics.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Two years or so ago when you read my post describing that the "Red
>>>Shift" of more distant light sources is due to the AGING of light, NOT
>>>to the expansion of the Universe�as might result from there having
>>>been a Big Bang�you attacked me for "stealing" your idea.  After that,
>>>I have humored you.  Now, you are getting way OUT of your league to
>>>even comment regarding any of my NEW science truths.
>>
>>Ralph lies about his degrees, he lies about the experiments that
>>have been done etc.  He is at your level of understanding so
>>why should he not comment on your nonsense?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>I feel sorry for anyone, like you, who hides behind purported degrees
>>>as if your notions about anything are worth a damn.  Be it known: Your
>>>notions aren't worth a damn.  You are just a one-notion, armchair,
>>>science groupie whose ideas have long faded from viability.  ��
>>>NoEinstein ��
>>
>>You getting testy today.  Are you beginning to realize that you
>>have accomplished nothing?
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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>>>>On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:57:46 -0800 (PST), NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net>
>>>>wrote:
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>>>>>On Feb 3, 6:57 am, SolomonW <Solom...@nospamAustraliaMail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 00:22:31 -0800 (PST), Pentcho Valev wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>(2) The negative result of the Michelson-Morley experiment confirms
>>>>>>>the hypothesis that the speed of light is independent of the speed of
>>>>>>>the light source (the future 1905 light postulate of Einstein)
>>
>>>>>>Since we are in 1887, there is no hypothesis that the speed of light is
>>>>>>independent of the speed of the light source.
>>
>>>>>>actually Michelson and Morley were quite stunned with their results and
>>>>>>could not explain it.
>>
>>>>>Dear SolomonW:  M-M was a wrongly designed experiment which was
>>>>>incapable of measuring the velocity of light or the velocity of
>>>>>anything else.  
>>
>>>>This is crap. The MMX was a beautifully designed and performed experiment that
>>>>had nothing whatsoever to do with measuring the speed of light.
>>>>Its sole intention was to measure the speed of the earth through the then
>>>>assumed absolute aether.
>>>>Its results appeared to prove the nonexistence of the latter...but Lorentz and
>>>>Fitzgerald got around that by suggesting that mass and time contracted on
>>>>objects that were moving wrt the absolute aether. It was virtually impossible
>>>>to disprove this theory.
>>
>>>>Ballistic theory explains the null result simply by stating that light moves at
>>>>c wrt its source and everything at rest in the source frame. So all light moves
>>>>around the MMX apparatus at the same speed c (wrt all components), irrespective
>>>>of its orientation.
>>>>Einstein fluked the same result, by claiming that light moves at c in any
>>>>frame....and of course everything in the MMX IS at rest in the same frame.
>>
>>>>>Pentcho knows that Einstein was wrong.  But he keeps
>>>>>insisting on making arguments which I have made outmoded.  M-M simply
>>>>>lacked a CONTROL.  So, no "rubber rulers" and warped space-time are
>>>>>needed to explain the nil results.  The following links should edify
>>>>>THINKING people who aren�t infected with Einstein's Disease.  �
>>>>>NoEinstein �
>>
>>>>You, unfortunately, lack both control and brains....
>>
>>>>Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)
>>
>>>>www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm.
>>
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> 
> 
> Folks: Doug is a persona non grata to science, and to me in
> particular.  :-}~ - - - !  NE

I am surprised that you do not appreciate the efforts that I have
made to help you learn from your mistakes. I have shown you where
you are wrong so that you can learn some physics and not look so
stupid.  Do you want to look stupid?
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