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Article #1423Re: where exactly is local?
From: bonatello
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 12:33
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 12:33
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On Feb 7, 12:08 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Feb 7, 12:44 pm, concatenate <d56...@toke.com> wrote in > sci.physics.relativity: > > > if from here to the edge of universe is non-local, > > > then i cant see why from here to my nearest bus station should be > > local > > > and also, where is non-local in quantum physics, > > > what is going on, are they religious terms? > > Yes. According to Einsteiniana, "local" means "free-falling in a > gravitational field". As you can see, the term is more than irrelevant > but still it perfectly camouflages the fact that the speed of light is > VARIABLE in a gravitational field - the most dangerous fact for > Einsteiniana. If you somehow refer to this variability, then Tom > Roberts helped by a zombie - often Dirk Moortel - immediately > introduces a red herring, something like this: "Yes the speed of light > is not constant GLOBALLY but it is constant LOCALLY and you don't > understand the difference between GLOBALLY an LOCALLY do you." And > since normal people see no semantic relation between "locally" and > "free-falling in a gravitational field", they remain frustrated and > Tom Roberts and zombie Dirk Moortel win. > > Pentcho Valev > pva...@yahoo.com right, but how do you think it works, i dont understand
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