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Article #387Re: PHOTONS AND CANNONBALLS IN A GRAVITATIONAL FIELD
From: Brad Guth
Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 05:39
Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 05:39
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On May 29, 9:26 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > The speed of light and the speed of cannonballs vary with the > gravitational potential in exactly the same way. This principle > established by Newton's emission theory of light was adopted by > Einstein in 1911: > > http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae13.cfm > "So, it is absolutely true that the speed of light is not constant in > a gravitational field [which, by the equivalence principle, applies as > well to accelerating (non-inertial) frames of reference]. If this were > not so, there would be no bending of light by the gravitational field > of stars....Indeed, this is exactly how Einstein did the calculation > in: 'On the Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light,' > Annalen der Physik, 35, 1911. which predated the full formal > development of general relativity by about four years. This paper is > widely available in English. You can find a copy beginning on page 99 > of the Dover book 'The Principle of Relativity.' You will find in > section 3 of that paper, Einstein's derivation of the (variable) speed > of light in a gravitational potential, eqn (3). The result is, > c' = c0 ( 1 + V / c^2 ) > where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the > speed of light c0 is measured." > > http://www.blazelabs.com/f-g-gcont.asp > "So, faced with this evidence most readers must be wondering why we > learn about the importance of the constancy of speed of light. Did > Einstein miss this? Sometimes I find out that what's written in our > textbooks is just a biased version taken from the original work, so > after searching within the original text of the theory of GR by > Einstein, I found this quote: "In the second place our result shows > that, according to the general theory of relativity, the law of the > constancy of the velocity of light in vacuo, which constitutes one of > the two fundamental assumptions in the special theory of relativity > and to which we have already frequently referred, cannot claim any > unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of light can only take place > when the velocity of propagation of light varies with position. Now we > might think that as a consequence of this, the special theory of > relativity and with it the whole theory of relativity would be laid in > the dust. But in reality this is not the case. We can only conclude > that the special theory of relativity cannot claim an unlimited domain > of validity ; its results hold only so long as we are able to > disregard the influences of gravitational fields on the phenomena > (e.g. of light)." - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) - The General Theory > of Relativity: Chapter 22 - A Few Inferences from the General > Principle of Relativity-. Today we find that since the Special Theory > of Relativity unfortunately became part of the so called mainstream > science, it is considered a sacrilege to even suggest that the speed > of light be anything other than a constant. This is somewhat > surprising since even Einstein himself suggested in a paper "On the > Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light," Annalen der > Physik, 35, 1911, that the speed of light might vary with the > gravitational potential. Indeed, the variation of the speed of light > in a vacuum or space is explicitly shown in Einstein's calculation for > the angle at which light should bend upon the influence of gravity. > One can find his calculation in his paper. The result is c'=c(1+V/c^2) > where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the > measurement is taken. 1+V/c^2 is also known as the GRAVITATIONAL > REDSHIFT FACTOR." > > In 1960 Pound and Rebka proved experimentally that the gravitational > redshift factor is 1+V/c^2: a result that unequivocally confirms the > equation c'=c(1+V/c^2) given by Newton's emission theory of light. > However in Einsteiniana's schizophrenic world "confirming Newton's > emission theory of light" unavoidably becomes "gloriously confirming > Divine Albert's Divine Theory". Similarly, in 1887, the Michelson- > Morley experiment confirmed the variability of the speed of light as > postulated by Newton's emission theory of light but later the same > experiment gloriously confirmed the constancy of the speed of light as > postulated by Divine Albert's Divine Theory: > > http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00001743/02/Norton.pdf > John Norton: "Einstein regarded the Michelson-Morley experiment as > evidence for the principle of relativity, whereas later writers almost > universally use it as support for the light postulate of special > relativity......THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE > WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT > POSTULATE." > > Pentcho Valev > pva...@yahoo.com So, what's the maximum velocity of light? ~ BG
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