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Article #394Re: PHOTONS AND CANNONBALLS IN A GRAVITATIONAL FIELD
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 13:27
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 13:27
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In 1911 Einstein says the analogy between the speed of photons and the speed of cannonballs is straightforward - the former varies with the gravitational potential as Newton's emission theory of light predicts. In the final version of Einstein's general relativity the analogy remains - both speeds are variable - but the speed of photons is more variable than the speed of cannonballs. Stephen Hawking, the Albert Einstein of our generation, implicitly rejects Einstein's general relativity by claiming that there can be no analogy between photons and cannonballs because the speed of light is constant in a gravitational field: http://www.amazon.com/Brief-History-Time-Stephen-Hawking/dp/0553380168 Stephen Hawking, "A Brief History of Time", Chapter 6: "Under the theory that light is made up of waves, it was not clear how it would respond to gravity. But if light is composed of particles, one might expect them to be affected by gravity in the same way that cannonballs, rockets, and planets are.....In fact, it is not really consistent to treat light like cannonballs in Newtons theory of gravity because the speed of light is fixed. (A cannonball fired upward from the earth will be slowed down by gravity and will eventually stop and fall back; a photon, however, must continue upward at a constant speed...)" Hawking goes even further: the speed of light cannot vary with the gravitational potential because the Michelson-Morley experiment has proved it is constant: http://www.hawking.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=64&Itemid=66 Stephen Hawking: "Interestingly enough, Laplace himself wrote a paper in 1799 on how some stars could have a gravitational field so strong that light could not escape, but would be dragged back onto the star. He even calculated that a star of the same density as the Sun, but two hundred and fifty times the size, would have this property. But although Laplace may not have realised it, the same idea had been put forward 16 years earlier by a Cambridge man, John Mitchell, in a paper in the Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society. Both Mitchell and Laplace thought of light as consisting of particles, rather like cannon balls, that could be slowed down by gravity, and made to fall back on the star. But a famous experiment, carried out by two Americans, Michelson and Morley in 1887, showed that light always travelled at a speed of one hundred and eighty six thousand miles a second, no matter where it came from. How then could gravity slow down light, and make it fall back." One of Hawking's brothers in Einsteiniana, John Norton, implicitly contradicts Hawking by teaching that the Michelson-Morley experiment has confirmed the variability of the speed of light as postulated by Newton's emission theory of light: http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00001743/02/Norton.pdf John Norton: "Einstein regarded the Michelson-Morley experiment as evidence for the principle of relativity, whereas later writers almost universally use it as support for the light postulate of special relativity......THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE." Up until recently Einstein's, Hawking's and Norton's teachings made the scientific community sing "Divine Einstein" and go into convulsions. Now that it is evident to everybody that theoretical physics is dead, the scientific community does not give a sh-t about any teaching. Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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