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Article #420Re: ETHERISTS LESS INSANE THAN EINSTEINIANS
From: harald
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:21
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On May 16, 5:00 pm, Darwin123 <drosen0...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On May 16, 1:23 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > ETHERISTS: > > >http://www.eng.uwi.tt/depts/elec/staff/sgift/special_relativity.pdf > > The Invalidation of a Sacred Principle of Modern Physics > > Stephan J.G. Gift > > "The principle underpinning modern physics, which states that the > > speed of light is > > constant and independent of the motion of the source and the observer, > > is shown > > to be invalid. (...) For a stationary observer O, the stationary light > > source S emits light at speed c, wavelength Lo, and frequency Fo given > > by Fo=c/Lo. If the observer moves toward S at speed v, then again > > based on classical analysis, the speed of light relative to the moving > > observer is (c + v) and not c as required by Einstein's law of light > > propagation. Hence the observer intercepts wave-fronts of light at a > > frequency fA, which is higher than Fo, as is observed, and is given by > > fA = (c+v)/Lo > Fo. (...) In light of this elementary result > > invalidating STR, it is difficult to understand why this invalid > > theory has been (and continues to be) accepted for the past 100 years. > > It is time to reject STR with its incorrect light speed invariance > > principle long pointed out by Ives, and return to the Lorentz-Maxwell > > ether-based theory elucidated by Ives and summarized by Erlichson." > > Ives was wrong. He made a prediction about circular optical > cavities. I chapters in a book he wrote about relativity. I > immediately found several errors. > I remember the circular cavity argument best. Ives claimed that a > circular cavity would not show the Sagnac effect They make fiber optic > compasses now that use the Sagnac effect. These are circular, and they > work. There are also some theoretical errors to be used in his > "circular cavity" model. Ives made several other errors. Can you specify any paper in which Ives made such a big error? I don't recall a Sagnac paper on a "circular cavity" but I do remember that he was keen on showing that all kinds of variations of Sagnac devices do work. > I also remember his emotional rant against Einstein and all his > followers. It was a lot like yours. He spent a lot of time railing > against those blind followers of Einstein. This did not belong in a > technical summary. So in addition to the scientific errors, he proved > he was not objective. What percentage of physicists do *not* make any errors and *is* objective? Harald
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