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Article #505Re: NEWTON AND MAXWELL REASONABLE, EINSTEIN ABSURD
From: harald
Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 11:22
Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 11:22
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On May 1, 6:25 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > According to Newton's emission theory of light, the SPEED of light > varies with the speed of the observer. > > According to Maxwell's theory, the SPEED of light varies with the > speed of the observer. > > The assertion that the SPEED of light varies with the speed of the > observer is physically reasonable. The assertion that the WAVELENGTH > of light varies with the speed of the observer is absurd. [..] As that kind of fuzzy and statements is a general source of confusion, here a little clarification: Neither Newton nor Maxwell defined "speed" relative to an "observer"; the speed of a physical entity can in those theories *not* be affected by observation. However, in Maxwell's electrodynamics the Doppler effect (variation of observed wavelength due to variation of either the velocity of the source or that of the observer) does exist (it's even easy to understand) and is *not* absurd. SRT is based on Maxwell's electrodynamics and maintains the non-causal relationship between the propagation of a light ray and the motion of an observer. If at sundown you start walking in the direction of the Sun, you don't slow down the light from the Sun that is on its way to Earth - that would physically *not* be reasonable. :)) Harald
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