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Article #5273Re: WHO ABANDONS EINSTEIN (APART FROM JOHN BAEZ)?
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:47
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:47
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http://everything2.com/node/1681948 "John Baez [Fat Rat], a mathematical physicist at the University of California Riverside, did the world a favor by creating a method of scoring crackpot ideas. Baez, who works on the mathematics of string theory and who's best known for his irregularly written but hugely popular on-line column "This Week's Finds in Mathematical Physics," created this list after moderating the science.physics.research (SPR) newsgroup. His Crackpot Index has been reprinted many times. Scientists smile quietly when they read it. Crackpots have a different reaction: they get defensive and red in the face, and strenuously object to his methods. Which is why true scientists will continue to smile and applaud Baez's brilliant Index. ................................. 16. 10 points for arguing that while a current well-established theory predicts phenomena correctly, it doesn't explain "why" they occur, or fails to provide a "mechanism"." A new addition to Fat Rat's brilliant Index: 35. 100 points for arguing that while current well-established theories are "on the right track", the picture of the world they will produce in the end will be "deeply schizophrenic" and therefore Fat Rat and his criminal brothers should leave the sinking ship as soon as possible: http://www.edge.org/q2008/q08_5.html John Baez: "On the one hand we have the Standard Model, which tries to explain all the forces except gravity, and takes quantum mechanics into account. On the other hand we have General Relativity, which tries to explain gravity, and does not take quantum mechanics into account. Both theories seem to be more or less on the right track -- but until we somehow fit them together, or completely discard one or both, our picture of the world will be deeply schizophrenic.....I realized I didn't have enough confidence in either theory to engage in these heated debates. I also realized that there were other questions to work on: questions where I could actually tell when I was on the right track, questions where researchers cooperate more and fight less. So, I eventually decided to quit working on quantum gravity." Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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