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On May 6, 5:28 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> On Thu, 6 May 2010 15:15:39 -0700 (PDT), PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 6, 5:02 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> >> On Thu, 6 May 2010 11:10:23 -0700 (PDT), PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On May 5, 11:47 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, 05 May 2010 08:54:13 -0500, Marvin the Martian <mar...@ontomars.org>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >I don't know where you three idiots get that, but no.
>
> >> >> >Maxwell's equations are only invariant under the Lorentz transformation,
> >> >> >and that preserves the speed of light regardless of the speed of the
> >> >> >observer.
>
> >> >> >But then, I shouldn't be wasting my time with physics ignoramuses who
> >> >> >don't know lower division undergrad physics. (Okay, with things the way
> >> >> >they are, it may now be UPPER division undergrad physics...)
>
> >> >> There is no aether and no Lorentz transforms you dopey bastard.
> >> >> Light is ballistic. Einstein's theory is crap.
>
> >> >Well, let's see.
> >> >Lorentz transforms are mathematical relations between coordinates.
> >> >When you write them down on a piece of paper, they exist.
> >> >Maxwell's equations superbly describe measured electrodynamics outside
> >> >the quantum realm.
> >> >It is easy to show the invariance of Maxwell's equations under the
> >> >Lorentz transforms with some lines of algebra on a piece of paper.
>
> >> Duh! So what?
>
> >So.... you just said they don't exist.
>
> >> >Once it's written down, it's pretty hard to deny that the
> >> >demonstration has been done.
>
> >> >Unless, of course, you clamp your eyes shut and mutter, "No-no-no-no-
> >> >no. I won't look and you can't make me. I *deny* your reality and
> >> >substitute my own."
>
> >> Maxwell's equations provide a way to measure the value of the universal
> >> constant c. They do that by measuring properties of electric and magnetic
> >> fields set up in various apparatus.
>
> >Uh-huh. You apparently don't have any idea what Maxwell's equations
> >do.
> >Say you want to know the charge distribution on a metal fork after
> >you've stuck it in the light socket. (Try it.) You know what will tell
> >you that? Maxwell's equations.
> >Say you want to know how much current you will need to drive a
> >toroidal electromagnet to ferric saturation. You know what will tell
> >you that? Maxwell's equations.
>
> Hahahahhhaaha! We're talking about Maxwell's wave equations...not general
> electromagnetic ones that were created long before Maxwell

Then perhaps you don't know what Maxwell's equations are. Would you
care to google them?

>
> >Say you want to know how to design an antenna to transmit your bootleg
> >all-porn FM channel. You know what will tell you that? Maxwell's
> >equations.
>
> Slightly more relevant...
>
> >Say you want to design a parallel plate capacitor with pudding as a
> >dielectric. You know what will tell you that? I think you get the
> >idea.
>
> Maxwell's wave equations are not required for that.

Yes, they are.

>
> >> 'c' also happens to represent the magnitude of light's speed wrt its source.
> >> Light moves at c+v wrt an observer moving at -v wrt its source.
>
> >> Empty space (completely devoid of fields) has NO e or mu. Maxwell's equations
> >> are not relevant there.
>
> >You haven't said how to generate what YOU call empty space. I presume
> >it is also devoid of angels and ectoplasm.
>
> Empty space exists below the WDT, which is the threshold at which the inverse
> square law breaks down and genuine 'holes of nothing' appear in space.

And how would you demonstrate or recreate this empty space to verify
its existence?
Or are you happy to posit ectoplasm and angels over and over and over
again?

>
> EM is 100% ballistic in those holes even though its presence temporarily
> destroys the emptiness.
>
> Henry Wilson...
>
> .......A relativist's IQ = his snipping ability.