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Re: EINSTEINIANA: THE FUNDAMENTAL CAMOUFLAGE

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From: G. L. Bradford
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:02
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"Pentcho Valev" <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:8e29233e-6bfd-44bd-94d4-37a511e46799@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> When Einsteinians are sure that a particular constancy has nothing to
> do with the Original Divine Constancy given by Einstein's 1905 false
> light postulate, they boldly violate it, produce shock and horror in
> Einstein zombie world, point to a Great Revolution in Science that is
> just around the corner and make a lot of profit in terms of career and
> money:
>
> http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=5538
> Paul Davies: "Einstein's famous equation E=mc2 is the only scientific
> formula known to just about everyone. The "c" here stands for the
> speed of light. It is one of the most fundamental of the basic
> constants of physics. Or is it? In recent years a few maverick
> scientists have claimed that the speed of light might not be constant
> at all. Shock, horror! Does this mean the next Great Revolution in
> Science is just around the corner?"
>
> Then Einsteinians quickly return to the classical miraculous
> corollaries of Einstein's 1905 false light postulate that constitute
> the main money-spinner in Einstein criminal cult:
>
> http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/davies/davies_index.html
> Paul Davies: "Remarkably, Wells's story was written about ten years
> before the publication of Einstein's special theory of relativity was
> published. Special relativity showed that time is elastic, flexible.
> It isn't simply there -- the same for everybody, as Newton supposed.
> There's your time and my time, and they can differ depending on how we
> move. If I jump in a rocket ship and head off at nearly the speed of
> light to a nearby star and come back again ten earth years later, I
> may have aged only, say, one year. This is called the twins effect,
> because if I left my twin brother at home, when I returned we would no
> longer be the same age. He would be ten years older, and I only one
> year older. In effect, I will have time-travelled nine years into his
> future. Bizarre though this time-stretching effect seems, we know it's
> true.....Travel into the past is much more problematic, though. The
> significant thing is, our best understanding of the nature of time,
> which comes from Einstein's general theory of relativity, leaves open
> the possibility of travel into the past. It doesn't say you can't do
> it, there's no known law within the theory of relativity to forbid it.
> But finding a plausible scenario to actually travel into the past is
> not an easy thing......This topic is often cast in the parable of the
> grandmother paradox: you go back 50 years and kill your grandmother,
> ensuring that you were never born in the first place. One way around
> it is that if you go to a parallel world, and kill your parallel
> grandmother, you can return to your own time to find Granny still
> alive and well. That's a possible resolution. There isn't any
> consensus on it. Perhaps the existence of parallel realities is a
> worse prospect than that of causal loop paradoxes......Einstein's
> theory of relativity tells us that space is curved by gravity, so
> imagine that it was warped in such a way that it connected earth with
> the center of the galaxy through a tube or a tunnel that might only be
> a few kilometers long -- who knows? The point is that if a wormhole is
> possible, it can be adapted for use as a time machine, as shown by Kip
> Thorne at Caltech, and his colleagues, and now the subject of an
> international cottage industry in research papers. To travel in time,
> what you do is this. You first plunge through the wormhole and exit at
> the remote end, then you zoom back home again through ordinary space
> at nearly the speed of light. If the circumstances are right, you can
> get back before you leave."
>
> Pentcho Valev

  "If I jump into a rocket ship...."

  Give a distance for an example. In light years, please.

  Make it ten light years to the star and for the hell of it a round trip of 
two years by his ship board clock. What is the traveler's starting point in 
time? This year 2008? NO! The year 1998! THE APPROXIMATE TIME WHEN THE LIGHT 
LEFT THE DESTINATION STAR TEN LIGHT YEARS FROM SOL! THE CLOCK TIME (CLOCK 
DATE) FOR THE DESTINATION STAR THE TRAVELER HAS UNDER OBSERVATION UPON 
DEPARTURE FROM VICINITY OF SOL! That is the traveler's starting block in 
time and path of his time travel from Sol to the destination star, NOT THE 
YEAR 2008!

  Time passage to the vicinity of star ten light years away, [observed fast 
forwarding all the way by the traveler], eleven years (1998-2009)!

  The traveler departs from the vicinity of the star immediately to return 
home to Earth. What is the traveler's starting point in time? Sol, 2009? NO! 
Sol, 1999! The clock time (clock date) for Sol the traveler has under 
observation upon departure from the vicinity of the star.

  Time passage to the vicinity of Sol from vicinity of star ten light years 
away, [observed fast forwarding all the way by the traveler], eleven years, 
(1999-2010)!

  Time clocked by his shipboard clock, two years (2008-2010)! Time his twin 
brother has for his absence from home, two years (2008-2010)! Time passage 
for the duration of the trip the traveling twin observed externally to him, 
round trip, twenty-two years (there: 1998-2009)-(return: 1999-2010)! Twenty 
light years, round trip.....twenty-two years, round trip (observed as two 
historical lines of the "all history universe")....in two years, round trip!

GLB 
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