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Article #5332Re: NEXT EINSTEINS DEEPLY UNDERSTAND PHYSICS
From: maxwell
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 00:41
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 00:41
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On Mar 21, 7:05 pm, "Robert J. Kolker" <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote: > maxwell wrote: > > > Sam, go read Einstein's 1905 paper before you sound off. > > The last paragraph of the introduction states: > > "The theory to be developed is based - like all electrodynamics - on > > the kinematics of the rigid body ...". Einstein was correct. If you > > would extend your reading to the EM research around 1900 by Poincare, > > Lorenz, Larmor, Abraham etc, you would find that Euler's concept of > > the 'rigid body' appeared everywhere. It is this concept (that grounds > > classical mechanics) that is inconsistemt with the finite time > > differences found in the EM interaction. It is the attempt to > > preserve this 'fiction' that results in the Lorentz (Larmor) > > transformation. > > Without the assumption of rigidity we could not measure lumber. We > presume our measuring sticks keep their shape when we schlep them > around. As long as our tools are "rigid enough" we can use them. > > Bob Kolker Bob, there you go again. We don't attempt to measure lumber flying past us with a rigid rod or anything else for that matter. It's usually best to just 'duck'. The point was (re-read Einstein's paper SLOWLY) was that both ends of the rigid rod move at the SAME time (not approximately so). If you combine this self-contradictory idea with the weird notion of light as a real object that ALWAYS travels at the same speed then the Lorentz transform is inevitable.
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