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On Mar 7, 6:13 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 7, 5:37 pm, philippus <philipp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Une science honnête ne serait-ce pas la conscience ?
> > Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme.
> > Philippus
>
> > On 19 fév, 16:28, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Those interested in the logical aspects of science may wish to see
> > > this:
>
> > > http://www.wbabin.net/philos/valev9.pdf
>
> Une conscience effective presuppose un esprit qui n'est pas traite par
> Big Brother; ce n'est pas toujours le cas:
>
> http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/George Orwell "1984":
> "In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and
> you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make
> that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it.
> Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of
> external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy
> of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that
> they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be
> right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or
> that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If
> both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if
> the mind itself is controllable what then?"

Il y a d'autres textes convenables permettant de comprendre la
situation des Einsteiniens:

http://agora.qc.ca/mot.nsf/Dossiers/Jesuites
Ignace de Loyola: "Il faut nous attacher à l'Église romaine au point
de tenir pour noir un objet qu'elle nous dit noir, alors même qu'il
serait blanc."

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/loyola-spirex.html
Ignatius of Loyola: "To be right in everything, we ought always to
hold that THE WHITE WHICH I SEE, IS BLACK, if the Hierarchical Church
so decides it...."

Pentcho Valev
pvalev@yahoo.com