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Re: ON NE BRULERA PAS LE LIVRE DE JEAN EISENSTAEDT!

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From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 06:52
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On Mar 9, 6:59 am, "R. Josh iii" <rjo...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> Pentcho Valev wrote:
> > Mais mon cher R. Josh 3-(2+1) le Disciple, je ne brulerai pas TOUS les
> > livres! Par exemple, le livre de Maitre Jean Eisenstaedt "Avant
> > Einstein", on ne le brulera JAMAIS:
>
> *Brûler* un livre, n'importe lequel, est un *crime* contre la
> civilisation et la culture.
>
> "Peine-Chaud Valet Vaurien" est un barbare, un destructeur de civilisaion.
> Retour aux époques sombres de l'Humanité...
>
> Mais après tout, c'est dans la nature de l'Homo Sapiens ! Il ne peut
> tolérer longtemps la civilisation, la paix, toute construction créatrice
> de vérité, de bien ou de beauté, sans la détruire tôt ou tard par la
> guerre, la révolution, la destruction de l'environnement...
>
> RJ

Mon cher R. Josh 3-(2+1) le Disciple, c'est un langage pompeux et
grotesque que tu dois abandonner - personne dans le monde anglophone
(meme dans le monde bulgarophone) ne parlerait d'une telle maniere
dans une situation non humoristique. Plutot, si tu toleres la
"construction creatrice de verite", tu dois toujours poser des
questions SCIENTIFIQUES et tenter d'y repondre, par exemple:

1. Qu'est-ce que l'experience de Michelson-Morley prouve au juste? Un
texte qui pourrait t'aider:

http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00001743/02/Norton.pdf
John Norton: "Einstein regarded the Michelson-Morley experiment as
evidence for the principle of relativity, whereas later writers almost
universally use it as support for the light postulate of special
relativity......THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE
WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT
POSTULATE."

2. Qu'est-ce que l'experience de Pound-Rebka prouve au juste? Un texte
qui pourrait t'aider:

http://www.blazelabs.com/f-g-gcont.asp "The first confirmation of a
long range variation in the speed of light travelling in space came in
1964. Irwin Shapiro, it seems, was the first to make use of a
previously forgotten facet of general relativity theory -- that the
speed of light is reduced when it passes through a gravitational
field....Faced with this evidence, Einstein stated:"In the second
place our result shows that, according to the general theory of
relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in
vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the
special theory of relativity and to which we have already frequently
referred, cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of
light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light
varies with position."......Today we find that since the Special
Theory of Relativity unfortunately became part of the so called
mainstream science, it is considered a sacrilege to even suggest that
the speed of light be anything other than a constant. This is somewhat
surprising since even Einstein himself suggested in a paper "On the
Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light," Annalen der
Physik, 35, 1911, that the speed of light might vary with the
gravitational potential. Indeed, the variation of the speed of light
in a vacuum or space is explicitly shown in Einstein's calculation for
the angle at which light should bend upon the influence of gravity.
One can find his calculation in his paper. The result is c'=c(1+V/c^2)
where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the
measurement is taken. 1+V/c^2 is also known as the GRAVITATIONAL
REDSHIFT FACTOR."

Pentcho Valev
pvalev@yahoo.com
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