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Re: THE BEST EXPLANATION OF LENGTH CONTRACTION

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From: Denis Feldmann
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:06
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Rudolf Drabek a �crit :
> On 6 Mrz., 21:31, Denis Feldmann <feldmann.denis.asuppri...@neuf.fr>
> wrote:
>> Rudolf Drabek a �crit :
>>
>>
>>
>>> I'm not good in understanding SR.
>>> I only want to know if I look to the situation from the pole's frame:
>>> So the distance between the barn doors is in any case too short, that
>>> the pole can fit into the barn.
>>> SR is symmetrical for time dilatation and length contraction, but not
>>> for this situation.
>>> Who can help me out.
>> Easy: the whole scenario insist on *simultaneously closing the doors*,
>> and simultaneity is not an absolute concept, so there is no
>> contradiction. But, of course, any serious student of SR knows that, or
>> can redemonstrate it to him(her)self convincingly, so you will only find
>> crank answers here...
> 
> I wanted to point out, that there are two scenarios and each one is
> *true* for the corresponding observer.

No, not really

  Einstein spended a lot of time
> on that point regarding syncing clocks and simultaneity, here similar
> problems can be seen.
> I can accept two truth, only the symmetry is lost, which is a major
> part of SR.

No, you canot : it is obviously impossible to put the rod in the barn, 
so this scenario must have a flaw, and indeed trying to close the door 
simultaneously *and* enclose the rod is not possible. Do the (simple) 
calculation to check that...


> So, who can help me out?
> Length contr. is a consequence of c=const in all frames and not more.

Sure
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From: Denis Feldmann <feldmann.denis.asupprimer@neuf.fr>
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