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Re: DEDUCTIVE ARGUMENTS IN NATURAL SCIENCES

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From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:13
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On Mar 7, 5:37 pm, philippus <philipp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Une science honnête ne serait-ce pas la conscience ?
> Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme.
> Philippus
>
> On 19 fév, 16:28, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > Those interested in the logical aspects of science may wish to see
> > this:
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> > http://www.wbabin.net/philos/valev9.pdf

Une conscience effective presuppose un esprit qui n'est pas traite par
Big Brother; ce n'est pas toujours le cas:

http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/ George Orwell "1984":
"In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and
you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make
that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it.
Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of
external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy
of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that
they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be
right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or
that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If
both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if
the mind itself is controllable what then?"

Pentcho Valev
pvalev@yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: DEDUCTIVE ARGUMENTS IN NATURAL SCIENCES
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