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Article #5415Re: relativity, anger, swearing
From: Igor
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:25
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:25
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On Mar 2, 2:33 pm, Dead Paul <dead_p...@no.reply> wrote: > On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:55:35 -0800, Pentcho Valev wrote: > > On Mar 2, 4:24 pm, Randy Poe <poespam-t...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> On Mar 2, 8:20 am, steve O <steve.g.oa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > My first posting to this group - may be my last :-) Why is there so > >> > much anger on this group when the subject is physics ? If some physics > >> > is 'wrong' then it will soon be found out by someone doing an > >> > experiment ? > >> > Swearing at others or getting so emotional is not going to convince > >> > anyone ? > >> > If engineers are compensating for GR and SR time dilation in the GPS > >> > satellite positioning system then relativity must have something going > >> > for it - the reason I say this is because many engineers have been > >> > extremely sceptical about SR over the years but they now embrace it. > >> > For all those people who can't accept the results of relativity - can > >> > they point to some prediction that has been shown to be false by > >> > experiment ? > > >> Sure, that's easy. The anti-relativists point to any experimental test > >> and say "they're lying, obviously the real result disproved relativity" > >> or "I'll bet they never even performed that experiment". > > >> Ta-da, relativity disproved! > > >> - Randy > > > Randy Randy things are simpler than that. You consider for instance the > > Pound-Rebka result > > Very good but you do not even need to do that. One of the foundations of > SR is relativity of simultaneity - it is false, so SR collapses. Similarly > with GR, the equivalence principle is known to be false also thus GR > collapses. > > -- > ___ _______ ___ ___ ___ __ ____ > / _ \/ __/ _ | / _ \ / _ \/ _ |/ / / / / > / // / _// __ |/ // / / ___/ __ / /_/ / /__ > /____/___/_/ |_/____/ /_/ /_/ |_\____/____/- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Please point out one experiment or observation that disproves relativity of simultaneity.
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X-Google-Thread: 10f545,461c77a5ba0bf0ea X-Google-Thread: 10b271,d208588c8e88b6fe X-Google-Thread: fa4c1,d208588c8e88b6fe X-Google-Thread: f55d3,d208588c8e88b6fe X-Google-Thread: 1139f8,d208588c8e88b6fe X-Google-Attributes: gid10f545,gid10b271,gidfa4c1,gidf55d3,gid1139f8,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Igor <thoovler@excite.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.philo,fr.sci.maths Subject: Re: relativity, anger, swearing Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:25:23 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 54 Message-ID: <86f337cb-4ff9-4082-9736-b58e5061095d@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com> References: <8091d8fe-5b67-49c6-918e-04529e9ad927@n75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <a063273d-b925-42e1-9ad4-3b25f3bb60cf@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <49bcd5a2-454c-4abb-9ee5-6680d47c1bf8@q78g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <fqevdl$lc7$1@news.datemas.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.205.115.70 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1204572324 25468 127.0.0.1 (3 Mar 2008 19:25:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 19:25:24 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=128.205.115.70; posting-account=UM3jRwkAAADTHFmJ20qgwageu031CeWA User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)