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On Mar 1, 10:04 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote:
> "xxein" <xx...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Mar 1, 7:49 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote:
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> > "xxein" <xx...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> >news:1584838d-0503-436d-bab2-7cd988511498@c33g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> > On Mar 1, 2:51 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > >http://www.us.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Astronomy/Cosmology/...
> > > The Life of the Cosmos
> > > Lee Smolin
> > > "Lee Smolin offers a new theory of the universe that is at once
> > > elegant, comprehensive, and radically different from anything proposed
> > > before....Natural selection may guide the appearance of the laws of
> > > physics, favoring those universes which best reproduce.....Offers an
> > > intriguing blend of the ideas of Einstein and Darwin. Argues that the
> > > laws of nature may themselves be subject to natural selection."
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> > > In fact, Lee Smolin has initially discovered that Einstein's idiotic
> > > "law of nature" according to which the speed of light is constant does
> > > not allow Einstein zombie world to reproduce successfully anymore:
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> > >http://edge.org/3rd_culture/smolin03/smolin03_index.html
> > > Lee Smolin: "Now, here is the really interesting part: Some of the
> > > effects predicted by the theory appear to be in conflict with one of
> > > the principles of Einstein's special theory of relativity, the theory
> > > that says that the speed of light is a universal constant. It's the
> > > same for all photons, and it is independent of the motion of the
> > > sender or observer. How is this possible, if that theory is itself
> > > based on the principles of relativity? The principle of the constancy
> > > of the speed of light is part of special relativity, but we quantized
> > > Einstein's general theory of relativity. Because Einstein's special
> > > theory is only a kind of approximation to his general theory, we can
> > > implement the principles of the latter but find modifications to the
> > > former. And this is what seems to be happening! So Gambini, Pullin,
> > > and others calculated how light travels in a quantum geometry and
> > > found that the theory predicts that the speed of light has a small
> > > dependence on energy. Photons of higher energy travel slightly slower
> > > than low-energy photons....A very exciting question we are now
> > > wrestling with is, How drastically shall we be forced to modify
> > > Einstein's special theory of relativity if the predicted effect is
> > > observed? The most severe possibility is that the principle of
> > > relativity simply fails....But there is another possibility. This is
> > > that the principle of relativity is preserved, but Einstein's special
> > > theory of relativity requires modification so as to allow photons to
> > > have a speed that depends on energy. The most shocking thing I have
> > > learned in the last year is that this is a real possibility. A photon
> > > can have an energy-dependent speed without violating the principle of
> > > relativity!"
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> > > Fortunately, Smolin has also discovered that Einstein's 1905 false
> > > light postulate, like any other law of nature, is subject to natural
> > > selection. So a new species called "Einstein zombie world with
> > > variable speed of light" will emerge soon and this new species will
> > > reproduce so well that, in the struggle for survival, all other
> > > species will disappear forever.
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> > > Pentcho Valev
> > > pva...@yahoo.com
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> > | xxein: Smolin did it wrongly and came to wrong conclusions as a
> > | victim of what he doesn't properly understand of the physic. Anyone
> > | and everyone does this.
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> > xxein did it wrongly and came to wrong conclusions as a
> > victim of what he doesn't properly understand of mathematics.
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> | xxein:  I can twist mathematics to choke you to death,
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> Not as well as I can, Geez you stupid shit. Have a go, we'll see if
> "Geez, you stupid fart" will succumb to "Geez you stupid shit"
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xxein:  See?  You admit that you twist math to suit a belief.

So what other arguements do you have at your disposal (besides twisted
math) to play physics with?