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Article #5443Re: relativity, anger, swearing
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 07:44
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 07:44
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On Mar 3, 12:42 am, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO- SperM.hotmail.com> wrote in sci.physics.relativity: > I explained in the other thread (where you painfully demonstrated > your ignorance and misunderstading) where it comes from if we > assume light speed invariance. *That* is (at least historically) the > foundation. > If you accept light speed invariance then you have no way out > from relativity of simultaneity. > > > - it is false, so SR collapses. > > Your understanding of it is false alright. > Just provide an experiment that shows that light speed > invariance is false. Then relativity of simultaneity no longer > follows from it and perhaps SR might collapse. Bravo! Zombie Dirk Moortel good logician! Zombie Tom Roberts bad logician: http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.physics.relativity/browse_frm/thread/8034dc146100e32c Tom Roberts, Feb 1, 2006: "If it is ultimately discovered that the photon has a nonzero mass (i.e. light in vacuum does not travel at the invariant speed of the Lorentz transform), SR would be unaffected but both Maxwell's equations and QED would be refuted (or rather, their domains of applicability would be reduced)." Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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