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Article #5483Re: STEVE CARLIP AND IGNATIUS OF LOYOLA
From: caliber
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 09:42
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 09:42
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On Jan 14, 9:52 pm, JanPB <film...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Jan 14, 7:17 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > >http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SpeedOfLight/speed_o... > > Steve Carlip: "Einstein went on to discover a more general theory of > > relativity which explained gravity in terms of curved spacetime, and > > he talked about the speed of light changing in this new theory. In > > the 1920 book "Relativity: the special and general theory" he wrote: > > ". . . according to the general theory of relativity, the law of the > > constancy of the velocity of light in vacuo, which constitutes one of > > the two fundamental assumptions in the special theory of relativity > > [. . .] cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of > > light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light > > varies with position." Since Einstein talks of velocity (a vector > > quantity: speed with direction) rather than speed alone, it is not > > clear that he meant the speed will change, but the reference to > > special relativity suggests that he did mean so. THIS INTERPRETATION > > IS PERFECTLY VALID AND MAKES GOOD PHYSICAL SENSE, BUT A MORE MODERN > > INTERPRETATION IS THAT THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS CONSTANT in general > > relativity." > > >http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/loyola-spirex.html > > Ignatius of Loyola: "To be right in everything, we ought always to > > hold that THE WHITE WHICH I SEE, IS BLACK, if the Hierarchical Church > > so decides it...." > > > Pentcho Valev > > pva...@yahoo.com > > Speed of light measured at a distance need not be c in GR. This is an > old hat (ca. 1916) which apparently brought you a headache (unlike the > hat in Meyrink's "Golem"). > > -- > Jan Bielawski sorry man, i cant understand what tha fok is "speed of light measured at a distance" shoe tha details in your picture
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