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Article #552Re: DOUBLETHINK AND RELATIVISM IN EINSTEINIANA
From: G. L. Bradford
Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 19:46
Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 19:46
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"Pentcho Valev" <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:36899368-b726-4bc9-814a-c679aed829b5@e2g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/article7113956.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797084 "HUMANS may one day be able to use time travel to skip generations into the future, according to Stephen Hawking. He has suggested humans could build spaceships capable of such high speeds that time itself would slow down for those on board. Such a spaceship could travel thousands of years into the future at close to the speed of light, reaching distant star systems within the lifetime of its crew. In theory it could allow humans to "colonise the future" - perhaps even returning to repopulate Earth if a disaster caused extinction on this planet during the flight. "Time travel was once considered scientific heresy and I used to avoid talking about it for fear of being labelled a crank, but these days Iļæ½m not so cautious," Hawking said." (snip) Pentcho Valev ===================== I figured out years ago that a great man had reached the point in senility where he could no longer think in terms of the union or merger of space and time into a [singular] concept of contraction / expansion. The above statement by Hawking (if by Hawking) is a glaring example of the separation of space and time into an inequality. The submersion of space into a concept of time alone existing, a fantastically distorted version of [singularity] that does away with space altogether and leaves a 1-dimensional string of time alone (a 1-dimensional 'arrow' of time alone, if one prefers it to 'string'). Space and time are base2 (space, 0-d) (time, 1-d) operating always in a merged unity...but no less base2. Hawking forgets the "observable universe" is a matter of histories; a matter of light-times, a matter of light. If Mars in its orbit is 200 light seconds from Earth, Mars is then observably, or relatively, (-)200 seconds from Earth....and therefore, concerning distance, also (-)200 seconds from the real-time Mars; from real-time space (0) -- which is where Hawking, among so many others, lost it or lose it. The travel, even at blazing -- I mean BLAZING! -- speed, is from time (-)200 seconds to space (0).....a Mars, relative to Earth and Earth's traveler, (-)200 seconds to a Mars in real-time space (0). Yes the traveler has time traveled at some almost unimaginable relative velocity, but from a time (-)200 seconds to a real-time space (0). And now Earth is 200 light seconds from Mars....(-)200 seconds from a now CONSOLIDATED Mars in real-time space (0).....and therefore, concerning distance, the distant Earth (-), relative to Mars (0), is an Earth also (-)200 seconds from a real-time Earth (0); from real-time space (0). In other words, the starting point of travel for Hawking's generational voyages (alluded to above) is gr-gr-gr-gr-gr... grandfather's time (-), the "observable" universe's strings of "observable" histories (-), not the voyager's local real-time space (0), or Earth's local real-time space (0), or the destination's unobserved and unobservable local real-time space (0). That is the 2-dimensional single-sided offset entities of LIGHT the voyager will voyage (the 1-dimensional string(s) of TIME the traveler will traveler). SPACE? The voyager contracts and expands space, moves vertically plane to plane of universe, moving paralleling universe to paralleling universe, therefore keeping c a "universal constant of c" -- in total defiance of Hawking above...space being exactly as relative, as uncertain, as time; position being exactly as relative, exactly as uncertain regarding 'absolute', as velocity. Hawking literally threw out, or forgot, the malleability of space. More than even that, he tried to make space so immersed / submerged in the 1-dimensional string(s) of time as to actually become NON-EXISTENT!, completely non-existent. He forgot something, though. Forgot it big time! He forgot gravity's singularity (and it's infinite Singularity of singularities (thus the duality, an infinite Universe of universes)). He forgot its singular field(s), its well(s), its hole(s); its sheer horizontal expanse of plane, and sheer vertical depth of planes.....its infinite Singularity (its infinity of singularities). He threw out or forgot the contractibility / expandability -- the sheer malleability -- of space. GLB ========================
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X-Google-Thread: 237b8ad48,434f8840f6f1d194 X-Google-Attributes: gid237b8ad48,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,CP1252 Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!npeer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.insightbb.com!news.insightbb.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 14:46:49 -0500 From: "G. L. Bradford" <glbrad01@insightbb.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique References: <25a88b38-001a-4343-8436-1794397fbec3@y14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> <4BB8F5DB.FD1DC170@hate.spam.net> <5a2842d2-6468-4432-80b8-e65b3c50596b@j21g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> <772005e8-86af-4e19-ba4d-c090a1abd209@8g2000yqz.googlegroups.com> <4ee0810f-04e4-4130-8a56-870a49e24860@s9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> <f7f4a5ea-27d9-4c38-9758-c1eb25ac670f@g30g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> <728182eb-88e9-44d4-a833-a1b1eaaff775@u21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> <eb493e68-7b3e-48ac-8885-c93c29e5247a@v14g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <c4c3f437-ab06-44c2-8dae-410ab92e8c73@i37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> <36899368-b726-4bc9-814a-c679aed829b5@e2g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <36899368-b726-4bc9-814a-c679aed829b5@e2g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: DOUBLETHINK AND RELATIVISM IN EINSTEINIANA Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 15:46:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 Message-ID: <ktCdncrK1cI0S0DWnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@insightbb.com> Lines: 82 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-AuthenticatedUsername: NoAuthUser X-Trace: sv3-grSPePaY8bfU7CX/jZjYcMCjLZWh1/IdRnJozdF7VlAtc9NT+j5O2gtgsvjfyxJ5FIEaohuG5b+Uumo!FkhKK7iK+jpsLDRBuF6WtGxOTw6v6Am5gZ26fW0oqi5WpmCgWxduFWA8L7ZotBtC41dhHP3ThYL9!bzFwuW3+khGZcTOc X-Complaints-To: abuse@insightbb.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@insightbb.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40