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Article #5539Re: ENTROPY: SUPREME LAW OF NATURE OR SCIENCE-KILLER?
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:00
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:00
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Clausius deduced his famous "Entropy always increases" from two premises: 1. Any irreversible process can be closed by a reversible process to become a cycle. 2. Closed integral of dQ/T is negative or zero for any cycle (Q is the heat absorbed, T is the temperature). The falsehood of the first premise is almost obvious. I am not able to prove RIGOROUSLY the falsehood of the second, but its truth is not proved either (Clausius' proof is invalid). The problem with the second premise is mentioned here: http://www.chem.umd.edu/~devoe/thermo/3steps.pdf Unfortunately the analysis is too technical to be discussed via email. Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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