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Article #5541Re: ENTROPY: SUPREME LAW OF NATURE OR SCIENCE-KILLER?
From: Daryl McCullough
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 12:17
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 12:17
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In article <9d54d3fb-36bb-4661-9c11-b17c13de30ef@q78g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, Pentcho Valev says... > >Clausius deduced his famous "Entropy always increases" from two >premises: > >1. Any irreversible process can be closed by a reversible process to >become a cycle. > >2. Closed integral of dQ/T is negative or zero for any cycle (Q is the >heat absorbed, T is the temperature). > >The falsehood of the first premise is almost obvious. I am not able to >prove RIGOROUSLY the falsehood of the second, but its truth is not >proved either (Clausius' proof is invalid). The problem with the >second premise is mentioned here: > >http://www.chem.umd.edu/~devoe/thermo/3steps.pdf > >Unfortunately the analysis is too technical to be discussed via >email. It's refreshing to see people who are crackpots about something other than relativity for a change. -- Daryl McCullough Ithaca, NY
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