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Re: LEE SMOLIN AGAINST ISAAC NEWTON

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From: shalayka
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:58
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On Feb 6, 1:34 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://philipball.blogspot.com/2007/09/arthur-eddington-was-innocent-...
> "With the technology then available, measuring the bending of
> starlight was very challenging. And contrary to popular belief,
> Newtonian physics did not predict that light would remain undeflected
> - Einstein himself pointed out in 1911 that Newtonian gravity should
> cause some deviation too. So the matter was not that of an all-or-
> nothing shift in stars' positions, but hinged on the exact numbers."
>
> However Budding Young Einsteins are taught in a different way:
>
> http://pirsa.org/speaker/Lee_Smolin
> Lee Smolin - ISSYP Keynote Session
> Speaker(s): Lee Smolin
> Abstract:
> Date: 01/08/2007 - 1:00 pm
>
> http://streamer.perimeterinstitute.ca/mediasite/viewer/?peid=5f32739a...
> Lee Smolin: "Newton's theory predicts that light goes in straight
> lines and therefore if the star passes behind the sun, we can't see
> it. Einstein's theory predicts that light is bent...."
>
> Pentcho Valev
> pva...@yahoo.com


History disagrees with the above comment by Smolin (assuming it was
quoted correctly):
http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2008/01/light-deflection-at-sun.html
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