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Article #5624Re: LEE SMOLIN AGAINST ISAAC NEWTON
From: Androcles
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:04
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:04
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"Albertito" <albertito1992@gmail.com> wrote in message news:2d490532-d50e-4844-87de-3e344d32a38c@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com... On 6 feb, 16:48, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote: > <srp2...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:4695358e-db97-4485-94b4-06f417a451d4@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > On 6 f�v, 02:34, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >http://philipball.blogspot.com/2007/09/arthur-eddington-was-innocent-... > > "With the technology then available, measuring the bending of > > starlight was very challenging. And contrary to popular belief, > > Newtonian physics did not predict that light would remain undeflected > > - Einstein himself pointed out in 1911 that Newtonian gravity should > > cause some deviation too. So the matter was not that of an all-or- > > nothing shift in stars' positions, but hinged on the exact numbers." > > | Right. > > | Classical Newtonian mechanics predicts that light will bend with > | twice the angle observed. > > How? | I'll tell you how. In order to see how newtonian gravity can | bend the trajectory of a photon, relativists fake it. They | magically tranform a photon with energy E into a particle | with mass m = E/2c^2, it is saying half the mass in E = mc^2. | Then, relativists assume that particle passes by the massive | body from infinity travelling locally at c, and then they can | apply newtonian gravity to see how its trajectory is deflected | into a hyperbolic one. As a result there is a deflection angle | twice the observed one. A particle with mass m = E/c^2, | travelling locally at c from infinity, would be deflected in | the correct angle, under newtonian gravity. See my reply to Andre.
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