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Re: VARIABLE SPEED OF LIGHT: FUNDAMENTAL THEOREMS

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From: Sue...
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 19:46
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On Apr 27, 1:36 pm, "G. L. Bradford" <glbra...@insightbb.com> wrote:
> "Sue..." <suzysewns...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> news:7b80e74b-3994-4c95-a080-7f1b92163ba7@v14g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 27, 12:28 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> [...]
>
> << where epsilon_0 and mu_0 are physical constants which
> can be evaluated by performing two simple experiments
> which involve measuring the force of attraction between
> two fixed charges and two fixed parallel current carrying
> wires. According to the relativity principle, these experiments
> must yield the same values for epsilon_0 and mu_0 in all
> inertial frames. Thus, the speed of light must be the
> same in all inertial frames. >>http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node108.html
>
> [...]
>
> > moment of emission).
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emission_theory
>
> Sue...
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>
> > Pentcho Valev
>
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>   Aside from the known speed and wavelength qualities of light, the 'photo
> effect' must still be a part of light, having counter or negative dimension


<<Modern view

It has been shown that it is not necessary for light
to be "quantized" to explain the photoelectric effect[8].
The most common method employed by physicists to
calculate the probability of an atom ejecting an
electron relies on "Fermi's golden rule". Although based
upon quantum mechanics, the method treats the incident
light as an electromagnetic wave that causes an atom
and its constituent electrons to transition from one
energy state ("eigenstate") to another.

While one can use the classical electromagnetic
theory of light to describe the effect, one may also
use the modern quantum theory of light to describe
the photoelectric effect. However, the modern quantum
theory of light is not a "particle model", as it does
not always predict results which one would expect from
a naïve "particle" interpretation. An example would be
in the dependence on polarization with regard to the
direction electrons are emitted, a phenomenon that has
been considered useful in gathering polarization data
from black holes and neutron stars.[9]. >>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photoelectric_effect#Modern_view

<<The Nobel Committee avoids committing itself to
the particle concept. Light-quanta or with modern
terminology, photons, were explicitly mentioned in
the reports on which the prize decision rested only
in connection with emission and absorption processes.
The Committee says that the most important application
of Einstein's photoelectric law and also its most
convincing confirmation has come from the use Bohr
made of it in his theory of atoms, which explains a
vast amount of spectroscopic data.>>
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/articles/ekspong/



> (therefore, apparently, frozen dimension). Rounded off, c = (+/-)300,000

Frozen What!

Frozen sherbet is better.


> where rest = 0....and there is no such thing as absolute rest (all rest is
> therefore absolute (0)). Thus the Moon is observed to be approximately 1.3
> light seconds from Earth ((-)1.3 seconds -there-then- from here-now (0)),
> Alpha Centauri to be approximately 4.3 light years from Earth ((-)4.3 light
> years -there-then- from here-now (0)), Andromeda approximately 2.3 million
> years from Earth ((-)2.3 million years -there-then- from here-now (0)), and
> so on.
>
>   An oncoming traveler doing an actual relative velocity of 1c, relative to
> the destination (0), transmits light at speed c, or (+)300,000kps absolute
> to its own local rest (0). The transmission is received by the forward
> observer (0) at the destination (0) doing transmission speed c.
>
> 1) Where does the observer [position] the OBSERVED traveler in space? A
> [constant] of half the distance the real-time traveler is from the observer.
>
> 2) What [velocity] does the observer have for the OBSERVED traveler? 1/2c.
>
> 3) What [time] does the observer have for the OBSERVED traveler? An OBSERVED
> time (-) before the UNOBSERVED real-time (0) of the traveler (a.k.a. a
> "retarded time" observed).
>
> 4) If the traveler (doing 1c, relatively speaking) does not slow, at what
> speed will it meet up with the observer? The OBSERVED 1/2c.

The light propagation is independent of emitter and
absorber's motion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impedance_of_free_space
http://espg.sr.unh.edu/ism/what1.html

>
> 5) How many dimensions?

None frozen.


<< where epsilon_0 and mu_0 are physical constants which
can be evaluated by performing two simple experiments
which involve measuring the force of attraction between
two fixed charges and two fixed parallel current carrying
wires. According to the relativity principle, these experiments
must yield the same values for epsilon_0 and mu_0 in all
inertial frames. Thus, the speed of light must be the
same in all inertial frames. >>
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node108.html



Sue...

See also:
Classical Electromagnetism:
An intermediate level course
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/lectures.html

Visualizing Electricity and Magnetism at MIT "Light"
http://web.mit.edu/8.02t/www/802TEAL3D/visualizations/light/index.htm


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