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Re: DIVINE ALBERT, POINCARE, NON-EUCLIDEAN GEOMETRY

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From: NoEinstein
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:02
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On Jan 30, 5:30 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
Dear Pentcho:  In the past year you have commented on my Einstein
disproofs in ways that led me to believe that you agree with what I
have done.  Yet, in a most intense manner, you are now continuing to
argue those same "moot points" like: space-time variance and 'rubber'
measuring rods.   Can't you, and any of those replying to you, realize
that Einstein and his SR and GR are now dead as... Laws of Nature?

One of the greatest wastes of money and manpower in this country is
because of Einstein's trash.  Wake up people; and clean the trash from
around your own feet, before you are consumed in its heap!  --
NoEinstein --

>
> http://hem.bredband.net/b153434/Works/Einstein.htm
> Divine Albert: "In a space which is free of gravitational fields we
> introduce a Galilean system of reference K (x, y, z, t), and also a
> system of co-ordinates K' (x', y', z', t') in uniform rotation
> relatively to K. Let the origins of both systems, as well as their
> axes of Z, permanently coincide. We shall show that for a space-time
> measurement in the system K' the above definition of the physical
> meaning of lengths and times cannot be maintained. For reasons of
> symmetry it is clear that a circle around the origin in the X, Y plane
> of K may at the same time be regarded as a circle in the X', Y' plane
> of K'. We suppose that the circumference and diameter of this circle
> have been measured with a unit measure infinitely small compared with
> the radius, and that we have the quotient of the two results. If this
> experiment were performed with a measuring-rod at rest relatively to
> the Galilean system K, the quotient would be [pi]. With a measuring-
> rod at rest relatively to K', the quotient would be greater than [pi].
> This is readily understood if we envisage the whole process of
> measuring from the "stationary" system K, and take into consideration
> that the measuring-rod applied to the periphery undergoes a Lorentzian
> contraction, while the one applied along the radius does not. Hence
> Euclidean geometry does not apply to K'."
>
> Why does Divine Albert believe that, "with a measuring-rod at rest
> relatively to K', the quotient would be greater than [pi]"? Obviously
> because "the measuring-rod applied to the periphery undergoes a
> Lorentzian contraction". Then why does the segment of the periphery,
> to which the measuring-rod is applied and which moves together with
> the measuring-rod, fail to undergo a Lorentzian contraction?
>
> In 1902, in "La Science et l'hypothese", Henri Poincare, in order to
> justify non-Euclidean geometries, presented a parabole. Bidimensional
> creatures live on a disc. The disc is heated under its center so that
> the temperature is high at the center and decreases towards the
> periphery. The creatures use rigid measuring rods in order to
> determine the geometry of their world. They know nothing about the
> heater and accordingly discover that the ratio of the circumference
> and the diameter is greater than [pi]. The creatures conclude that
> Euclidean geometry cannot be true on their disc.
>
> Pentcho Valev
> pva...@yahoo.com
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