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Article #5698Re: EXTREMELY SILLY EINSTEINIANS
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:23
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:23
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On Jan 29, 11:40 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jan 29, 9:13 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > On Jan 27, 12:10 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jan 26, 4:19 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > String theorists: definitely the silliest Einsteinians: > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzMEAkI-yrQ&feature=related > > > > Compare with this: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqhlQfXUk7w > > > String theorists: silly but expensive Einsteinians: > > > http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/01/physics-prof-pr.html > > "Physics Prof Proposes String Theory Test (But It'll Cost Us). The > > apparent inability of physics' string theory to be proved right or > > wrong is one of the stickiest - and argument-generating - problems in > > modern science. But now researchers at the University of Illinois say > > they might have a way to test some of string theory's predictions. > > Only problem? It'll be very, very expense. String theory is probably > > the most well-fleshed out candidate today for a so-called Theory of > > Everything. That means that it would integrate virtually everything we > > know about physics thus far, including the microscopic observations of > > the sub-atomic world and events that happen on a galaxy-wide scale, > > and follow the rules of Einstein's General Theory of Relativity." > > Amazingly, string theorists believe that quantum gravity theorists are > the silliest Einsteinians: > > http://motls.blogspot.com/2007/06/lee-smolin-vs-thibault-damour.html > Motl: "Damour has argued that not even Smolin can be so limited that > he would actually believe the naive Popperian dogmas. Well, I am > afraid that Smolin is much more stupid than Damour can even imagine. > Accepting statements of philosophers as dogmas, blowing them out of > proportion, applying them behind the range of their validity > regardless of physical arguments, and using them to organize witch > hunts is something that Lee Smolin is very good at." > > Those who know French could easily see that quantum gravity theorist > Lee Smolin is silly indeed but string theorist Thibault Damour is much > sillier: > > http://www.cite-sciences.fr/francais/ala_cite/college/v2/html/2006_2007/conferences/conference_342.htm Note how desperately silly Smolin asks sillier Damour what would happen if the speed of photons is not constant. Sillier Damour believes there is nothing to worry about: after all, string theory presupposes a lot of Lorentz violations. Bold Damour is going to go beyond Einstein - he wants to have constants that vary. Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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