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Article #5700Re: EINSTEIN: IF I GO DOWN, EVERYTHING GOES DOWN
From: xxein
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:49
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:49
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On Jan 29, 1:45 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/index.php?option=com_content&task=vi... > > http://streamer.perimeterinstitute.ca/mediasite/viewer/?peid=685dc5bb... > Albert Einstein: "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot > be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures. > Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the > theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary > physics." > John Stachel's comment: "If I go down, everything goes down, ha ha, > hm, ha ha ha." > > And Einsteinians decided to save the money-spinner. Since the speed of > DISCONTINUOUS light particles obeys the equation c'=c+v given by > Newton's emission theory of light, John Stachel and his sycophant Jean > Eisenstaedt discovered that the emission theory and Divine Albert's > Divine Theory were compatible and then added the former to the latter: > > http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i6272.html > John Stachel: "Not only is the theory [of relativity] compatible with > an emission theory of radiation, since it implies that the velocity of > light is always the same relative to its source; the theory also > requires that radiation transfer mass between an emitter and an > absorber, reinforcing Einstein's light quantum hypothesis that > radiation manifests a particulate structure under certain > circumstances." > > http://ustl1.univ-lille1.fr/culture/publication/lna/detail/lna40/pgs/... > Jean Eisenstaedt: "Il n'y a alors aucune raison theorique a ce que la > vitesse de la lumiere ne depende pas de la vitesse de sa source ainsi > que de celle de l'observateur terrestre ; plus clairement encore, il > n'y a pas de raison, dans le cadre de la logique des Principia de > Newton, pour que la lumiere se comporte autrement - quant a sa > trajectoire - qu'une particule materielle. Il n'y a pas non plus de > raison pour que la lumiere ne soit pas sensible a la gravitation. > Bref, pourquoi ne pas appliquer a la lumiere toute la theorie > newtonienne ? C'est en fait ce que font plusieurs astronomes, > opticiens, philosophes de la nature a la fin du XVIIIeme siecle. Les > resultats sont etonnants... et aujourd'hui nouveaux." > > Translation from French: "Therefore there is no theoretical reason why > the speed of light should not depend on the speed of the source and > the speed of the terrestrial observer as well; even more clearly, > there is no reason, in the framework of the logic of Newton's > Principia, why light should behave, as far as its trajectory is > concerned, differently from a material particle. Neither is there any > reason why light should not be sensible to gravitation. Briefly, why > don't we apply the whole Newtonian theory to light? In fact, that is > what many astronomers, opticians, philosophers of nature did by the > end of 18th century. The results are surprising....and new nowadays." > > Pentcho Valev > pva...@yahoo.com xxein: Another theory will tell you there is no reason to believe that clicking your ruby-red heels together cannot return you to Kansas. Gravity fine, but emission (the aspect that you are referring to) has proved false. Just how false is through the use of a logical conclusion. It cannot be contained within any theoretical conclusionary statement. I can like a lot of what you write but this has no legs.
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