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Article #5751Re: WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO ALLOW THE SPEED OF LIGHT TO VARY
From: JanPB
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:42
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:42
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On Jan 21, 6:00 am, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Jan 19, 12:07 pm, JanPB <film...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jan 19, 7:49 am, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jan 19, 1:35 am, Koobee Wublee <koobee.wub...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jan 18, 6:54 am, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jan 18, 12:41 am, Koobee Wublee wrote: > > > > > > Yes, this I do not dispute. However, both SR and LET are merely > > > > > > interpretations to the Lorentz transform. <shrug> > > > > > > The physical basis is the two postulates, exactly as stated, > > > > > regardless of the inversion that you apply at your whim. <shrug>. > > > > > Well, only the high priest of a religion would bring two ordinary > > > > assumptions into something really divine. > > > > It's not divine. No one has ever said it's divine except those who > > > equate relativity with a religion. It is quite ordinary as you note. > > > > > The ordinary assumptions > > > > are more specifically > > > > > ** The principle of relativity > > > > > This very fundamental principle was already discovered by Galileo > > > > about 400 years ago. That would make it 300 years before Einstein the > > > > nitwit, the plagiarist, and the liar.' > > > > Yes, the principle of relativity was discovered 300 years earlier. > > > Note that Galileo was not able to do with it what Einstein was. > > > > > ** Constancy in the speed of light > > > > > Voigt had already radically proposed that to describe the null results > > > > of the Aether-drift experiment. > > > > And Voigt was not able to do with it what Einstein was. > > > > I don't know where you get the idea that a revolution in physics > > > cannot come from the synthesis of *already known* ideas and must start > > > completely from scratch, with postulates that no one previously had > > > dreamed of. The *bulk* of physics revolutions come from a leaping > > > *synthesis* of ideas already established. Newton did the same. Bohr > > > did the same. Da Vinci did the same. Galileo did the same. There is > > > NOTHING wrong with that. > > > It's been quite obvious for some time that Koobee is not motivated by > > anything science-related but is instead on a kind of personal vendetta > > against Einstein. So he is obviously deaf to the truth. I leave it as > > an exercise for the reader to figure out his motives. > > People like KW believe that it is unfair that folks like Einstein > should get lauded for "standing on the shoulders of giants" as Newton > said. They have a peculiar view of what should be noted as significant > in science. I suspect this would be far too subtle - the real reason is probably something nowhere near as thought out or rational and is more akin to phobia. > And they want the practice of science to bend to their > notions of what's fair and right. Yes, that naturally follows then. -- Jan Bielawski
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