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From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 08:15
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On Jan 23, 9:02Β am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.edge.org/q2008/q08_5.html
> John Baez: "On the one hand we have the Standard Model, which tries to
> explain all the forces except gravity, and takes quantum mechanics
> into account. Β On the other hand we have General Relativity, which
> tries to explain gravity, and does not take quantum mechanics into
> account. Both theories seem to be more or less on the right track --
> but until we somehow fit them together, or completely discard one or
> both, our picture of the world will be deeply schizophrenic."

Baez Baez here is just one of the sources of the schizophreny:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.math.research/browse_frm/thread/995298fb8f5aa557?
John Baez: "Two constants appear throughout general relativity: the
speed of light c and Newton's gravitational constant G.   This should
be no surprise, since Einstein created general relativity to reconcile
the success of Newton's theory of gravity, based on instantaneous
action at a distance, with his new theory of special relativity, in
which no influence travels faster than light."

Whoever told you that Baez Baez? Criminal brothers much cleverer than
you could teach you so efficiently but you never learn Baez Baez:

http://www.logosjournal.com/issue_4.3/smolin.htm "Einstein's Legacy --
Where are the "Einsteinians?", Lee Smolin: "Quantum theory was not the
only theory that bothered Einstein. Few people have appreciated how
dissatisfied he was with his own theories of relativity. Special
relativity grew out of Einstein's insight that the laws of
electromagnetism cannot depend on relative motion and that the speed
of light therefore must be always the same, no matter how the source
or the observer moves. Among the consequences of that theory are that
energy and mass are equivalent (the now-legendary relationship E =
mc2) and that time and distance are relative, not absolute. SPECIAL
RELATIVITY WAS THE RESULT OF 10 YEARS OF INTELLECTUAL STRUGGLE, YET
EINSTEIN HAD CONVINCED HIMSELF IT WAS WRONG WITHIN TWO YEARS OF
PUBLISHING IT."

http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/papers/OntologyOUP_TimesNR.pdf "What Can
We Learn about the Ontology of Space and Time from the Theory of
Relativity?", John D. Norton: "In general relativity there is no
comparable sense of the constancy of the speed of light. The constancy
of the speed of light is a consequence of the perfect homogeneity of
spacetime presumed in special relativity. There is a special velocity
at each event; homogeneity forces it to be the same velocity
everywhere. We lose that homogeneity in the transition to general
relativity and with it we lose the constancy of the speed of light.
Such was Einstein's conclusion at the earliest moments of his
preparation for general relativity. ALREADY IN 1907, A MERE TWO YEARS
AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THE SPECIAL THEORY, HE HAD CONCLUDED THAT THE
SPEED OF LIGHT IS VARIABLE IN THE PRESENCE OF A GRAVITATIONAL FIELD."

Pentcho Valev
pvalev@yahoo.com
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