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Re: ELASTIC WAVELENGTH VERSUS VARIABLE SPEED OF LIGHT

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From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 07:27
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Peter Hayes "The Ideology of Relativity: The Case of the Clock
Paradox" : Social Epistemology, Volume 23, Issue 1 January 2009, pages
57-78
"The gatekeepers of professional physics in the universities and
research institutes are disinclined to support or employ anyone who
raises problems over the elementary inconsistencies of relativity. A
winnowing out process has made it very difficult for critics of
Einstein to achieve or maintain professional status. Relativists are
then able to use the argument of authority to discredit these critics.
Were relativists to admit that Einstein may have made a series of
elementary logical errors, they would be faced with the embarrassing
question of why this had not been noticed earlier. Under these
circumstances the marginalisation of antirelativists, unjustified on
scientific grounds, is eminently justifiable on grounds of
realpolitik. Supporters of relativity theory have protected both the
theory and their own reputations by shutting their opponents out of
professional discourse."

Sooner or later gatekeepers, in dealing with the obvious fact that the
speed of any wave varies with the speed of the observer, "would be
faced with the embarrassing question of why this had not been noticed
earlier":

http://redshift.vif.com/JournalFiles/V17NO1PDF/V17N1GIF.pdf
"The Doppler Shift or frequency change for light or other
electromagnetic radiation detected by an observer moving at speed v <<
c directly towards a stationary source corresponds to an increased
light speed c_R = c+v relative to the moving observer. It can
similarly be shown that movement of the observer away from the source
results in a reduced light speed c_R = c-v. Analogous effects occur
for sound waves in a fluid medium."

Idiotic camouflage (the wavelength varies with the speed of the
observer so that the speed of the wave could gloriously remain
constant) would no longer be reliable:

http://sampit.geol.sc.edu/Doppler.html
"Moving observer: A man is standing on the beach, watching the tide.
The waves are washing into the shore and over his feet with a constant
frequency and wavelength. However, if he begins walking out into the
ocean, the waves will begin hitting him more frequently, leading him
to perceive that the wavelength of the waves has decreased. Again,
this phenomenon is due to the fact that the source and the observer
are not the in the same frame of reference. Although the wavelength
appears to have decreased to the man, the wavelength would appear
constant to a jellyfish floating along with the tide."

http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/teaching/HPS_0410/chapters/big_bang/index.html
John Norton: "Here's a light wave and an observer. If the observer
were to hurry towards the source of the light, the observer would now
pass wavecrests more frequently than the resting observer. That would
mean that moving observer would find the frequency of the light to
have increased (AND CORRESPONDINGLY FOR THE WAVELENGTH - THE DISTANCE
BETWEEN CRESTS - TO HAVE DECREASED)."

Pentcho Valev
pvalev@yahoo.com
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