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Article #5821Re: WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO ALLOW THE SPEED OF LIGHT TO VARY
From: PD
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:54
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:54
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On Jan 18, 12:41 am, Koobee Wublee <koobee.wub...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Jan 17, 6:30 am, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Jan 16, 11:28 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote: > > > Then, what is the mathematical basis of SR? Don't tell me it has none > > > and continue to apply the Lorentz transform. If so, you can only be > > > labeled as a hypocrite and a liar. > > > Physical theories have *physical* bases, not mathematical ones. > > Yes, this I do not dispute. However, both SR and LET are merely > interpretations to the Lorentz transform. <shrug> The physical basis is the two postulates, exactly as stated, regardless of the inversion that you apply at your whim. <shrug>. > > > The > > mathematics is a structure for rigorously expositing the conclusions > > to be drawn from the *physical* basis of a theory. The mathematics is > > a *tool*, not a foundation on which to build a theory. > > Without mathematics, discussing physics is merely discussing > philosophy. So, if you are trying to divorce SR from the Lorentz > transform, you are not discussing philosophy. In that case, you are > on your own. Thus, the rest of philosophical discussion is snipped. > You can talk yourself to believe in anything you want. This also > includes the snobby impression that because you are given the title of > a physicist you understand physics better than anyone else. Likewise, you being an iconoclast and an amateur does NOT guarantee that your "fresh perspective" is protection against misinformation due to ignorance and errors due to lack of practiced skills. PD
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