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Article #5850Re: WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO ALLOW THE SPEED OF LIGHT TO VARY
From: JanPB
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:42
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:42
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On Jan 14, 9:38 pm, Koobee Wublee <koobee.wub...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Jan 14, 4:03 pm, JanPB <film...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jan 14, 11:26 am, Koobee Wublee wrote: > > > >http://www.usnews.com/usnews/culture/articles/030526/26beyond.htm > > > > This is a typical distortion of history. Actual historic timeline > > > regarding the development of relativity is as follows. > > > > ** About 400 years ago, Galileo identified the principle of > > > relativity. The mathematics is the Galilean transform itself. > > > > ** In 1881, Michelson alone set out to measure the drift velocity of > > > the earth in the background of the Aether. The results were null > > > based on the Galilean transform. > > > > ** In 1887, Voigt proposed the constancy in the speed of light > > > relative to all observers. The Voigt transform as a modification to > > > the Galilean transform becomes the mathematics of Voigt's work. > > > Although the Voigt transform explains the null results of Michelson's > > > experiment, it violates the principle of relativity. > > > > ** In 1887 a few months after Voigt's work, Michelson and Morley > > > conducted their famous experiment (MMX), and the results were also > > > null. > > > > ** In 1889, FitzGerald proposed a longitudinal length contraction to > > > the travel arm of the MMX. > > > > ** In 1897, Larmor modified the Voigt transform into the Lorentz > > > transform. The constancy in the speed of light still holds for the > > > Lorentz transform. However, the Lorentz transform now obeys the > > > principle of relativity. > > > > ** In 1899, Lorentz knowing about Larmor's work wrote the Lorentz > > > transform with his ludicrous interpretation now called LET. > > > > ** In 1904, Poincare proclaimed relative simultaneity as a property > > > of the Lorentz transform. His interpretation to the Lornetz transform > > > would later be called SR. > > > > ** In 1905, Einstein reverse-engineered the Lorentz transform and > > > tried to pass it as he was the first to derive it based on the two > > > postulates. In doing so, he made a series of errors, but the results > > > were always what were of expectations. Einstein was a nitwit, a > > > plagiarist, and a liar. > > > > ** In 1908, Minkowski discovered a single equation to represent the > > > Lorentz transform. > > > > ** In 1911, Longevin jokingly mentioned the twin's paradox as an > > > Achilles heel of the Lorentz transform. The twin's paradox can be > > > resolved in a numerous ways where each one is in direct contradiction > > > of the others. Thus, effectively, the twin's paradox has not been > > > resolved. In fact, it cannot be. > > > This is a perfect example of a total misunderstanding of how science > > develops. It's sort of like saying: > > > 1. Ptolemy devised a way to account for the observed motion of the > > planets. > > > 2. Copernicus reverse engineered it by merely moving the origin of > > coordinates. Copernicus was a nitwit, a plagiarist, and a liar. > > You are so ignorant. Ptolemy's model called out for all planets > except the earth circling the sun while the sun circling the earth. > There is no bloody way you can devise a coordinate change to bridge > Ptolemy and Copernicus. You are merely whining after your idol > Einstein has been rightfully identified as a nitwit, a plagiarist, and > a liar. > > > This is Koobee's "approach" to physics. > > No, this is what history as it actually happened. Please stop acting > like a fairy and accept the history as it actually happened. <shrug> > > Just for your benefit, I have added a few more tidbits to the standard > timeline. Please enjoy. > > * * * * Historic Timeline of SR * * * * > > >http://www.usnews.com/usnews/culture/articles/030526/26beyond.htm > > This is a typical distortion of history. Actual historic timeline > regarding the development of relativity is as follows. > > ** About 400 years ago, Galileo identified the principle of > relativity. The mathematics is the Galilean transform itself. > > ** In 1881, Michelson alone set out to measure the drift velocity of > the earth in the background of the Aether. The results were null > based on the Galilean transform. > > ** In 1887, Voigt proposed the constancy in the speed of light > relative to all observers. The Voigt transform as a modification to > the Galilean transform becomes the mathematics of Voigt's work. > Although the Voigt transform explains the null results of Michelson's > experiment, it violates the principle of relativity. > > ** In 1887 a few months after Voigt's work, Michelson and Morley > conducted their famous experiment (MMX), and the results were also > null. > > ** In 1889, FitzGerald proposed a longitudinal length contraction to > the travel arm of the MMX. > > ** In 1897, Larmor modified the Voigt transform into the Lorentz > transform. The constancy in the speed of light still holds for the > Lorentz transform. However, the Lorentz transform now obeys the > principle of relativity. > > ** In 1899, Lorentz knowing about Larmor's work wrote the Lorentz > transform with his ludicrous interpretation now called LET. > > ** In 1904, Poincare proclaimed relative simultaneity as a property > of the Lorentz transform. His interpretation to the Lornetz transform > would later be called SR. > > ** In 1905, Einstein reverse-engineered the Lorentz transform and > tried to pass it as he was the first to derive it based on the two > postulates. In doing so, he made a series of errors, but the results > were always what were of expectations. Einstein was a nitwit, a > plagiarist, and a liar. > > ** In 1908, Minkowski discovered a single equation to represent the > Lorentz transform. In doing so, a physical Aether is replaced by an > abstract one where the spacetime becomes its mathematical model. > > ** In 1911, Longevin jokingly mentioned the twin's paradox as an > Achilles heel of the Lorentz transform. The twin's paradox can be > resolved in a numerous ways where each one is in direct contradiction > of the others. Thus, effectively, the twin's paradox has not been > resolved. In fact, it can never be resolved because the very > combination of a time dilation and the principle of relativity form > this paradox. To resolve this paradox, one must invalidate either the > time dilation or the principle of relativity. In doing so, one also > invalidates the Lorentz transform along with its ubiquitous > interpretations such as SR and LET. What you write above is a mishmash of truth and falsehoods designed solely to support your thesis about Einstein. As a piece of evidence and as a piece of science history - it's worthless. -- Jan Bielawski
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