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Article #5870Re: WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO ALLOW THE SPEED OF LIGHT TO VARY
From: Don Stockbauer
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:15
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:15
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On Jan 12, 1:14 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > http://www.usnews.com/usnews/culture/articles/030526/26beyond.htm > "Even if Joao Magueijo had not advocated castrating an editor at a > prestigious science journal, and even if he hadn't suggested that > rival physicists, ostensibly brilliant like Magueijo, were just > posers--in short, even if Magueijo were a less colorful rebel, his > ideas would have attracted attention. After all, he is taking on > Einstein, and ever since we placed Einstein on a pedestal, we have > been titillated by the idea of knocking him off. Magazine editors know > that putting the antic-haired genius on the cover, perhaps over the > words Faster Than the Speed of Light --the somewhat misleading title > of Magueijo's recent book--all but guarantees sales. And yet Magueijo, > a physicist at Imperial College, London, is for real, and he is not > alone. As we near the end of our first century in a relative universe, > challenges to Einstein's theory are in the air. They are respectful > challenges; even Magueijo isn't proposing to throw relativity out the > window, any more than Einstein junked Newton. "We get E-mail and > letters all the time from amateurs who think they have found a mistake > in Einstein's theory," says Lee Smolin, a physicist at the Perimeter > Institute in Waterloo, Ontario. "That's not what is going on here." If > relativity is wrong, it is wrong by such tiny amounts or in such > particular circumstances that you have to go to great lengths to find > the error......They may have to bend his best-known principle: the one > that says the speed of light is an absolute, always and everywhere the > same, and faster than anything else.....Second, he said that c, the > speed of light, will appear exactly the same to every observer, in > every frame of reference. A century later, that second postulate still > defies common sense. It says that if you're driving down the highway > at a quarter the speed of light, you'll still see the photons from > your headlights racing ahead of you at light speed--not three-quarters > light speed. If I'm coming from the opposite direction at half light > speed, I'll still see your photons approaching at c--not 1.5 times > c......It might be a relief to learn that physicists were talking > about chucking this deeply strange theory. But just as Einstein made > only minute corrections to Newton in everyday life--to really feel the > effects of special relativity, you have to move at a large fraction of > light speed--the proposed changes to relativity would have only > subtle, hard-to-detect effects. Yet the stakes are big......Physicists > are taking many paths to this "quantum gravity" grail, but in all of > them spacetime itself, instead of being continuous, is made of quantum > bits.....That minimum length comes at a cost, however: The speed of > light would no longer be a constant." > > Pentcho Valev > pva...@yahoo.com Boy, all this is sure complicated.
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