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Article #5906WHY THE PICTURE OF THE WORLD IS SCHIZOPHRENIC
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 11:25
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 11:25
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http://www.edge.org/q2008/q08_5.html John Baez: "On the one hand we have the Standard Model, which tries to explain all the forces except gravity, and takes quantum mechanics into account. On the other hand we have General Relativity, which tries to explain gravity, and does not take quantum mechanics into account. Both theories seem to be more or less on the right track -- but until we somehow fit them together, or completely discard one or both, our picture of the world will be deeply schizophrenic." Bravo Baez! Does this have anything to do with Einstein's 1954 confession: http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/pdf/files/975547d7-2d00-433a-b7e3-4a09145525ca.pdf Albert Einstein: "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures. Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary physics." If it does Baez Baez, is your brother's insight a step in the right direction: http://ustl1.univ-lille1.fr/culture/publication/lna/detail/lna40/pgs/4_5.pdf Jean Eisenstaedt: "Il n'y a alors aucune raison theorique a ce que la vitesse de la lumiere ne depende pas de la vitesse de sa source ainsi que de celle de l'observateur terrestre ; plus clairement encore, il n'y a pas de raison, dans le cadre de la logique des Principia de Newton, pour que la lumiere se comporte autrement - quant a sa trajectoire - qu'une particule materielle. Il n'y a pas non plus de raison pour que la lumiere ne soit pas sensible a la gravitation. Bref, pourquoi ne pas appliquer a la lumiere toute la theorie newtonienne ? C'est en fait ce que font plusieurs astronomes, opticiens, philosophes de la nature a la fin du XVIIIeme siecle. Les resultats sont etonnants... et aujourd'hui nouveaux." Translation from French: "Therefore there is no theoretical reason why the speed of light should not depend on the speed of the source and the speed of the terrestrial observer as well; even more clearly, there is no reason, in the framework of the logic of Newton's Principia, why light should behave, as far as its trajectory is concerned, differently from a material particle. Neither is there any reason why light should not be sensible to gravitation. Briefly, why don't we apply the whole Newtonian theory to light? In fact, that is what many astronomers, opticians, philosophers of nature did by the end of 18th century. The results are surprising....and new nowadays." Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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X-Google-Thread: 10f545,92bcc549f8cc5567,start X-Google-Thread: 10b271,92bcc549f8cc5567,start X-Google-Thread: fa4c1,92bcc549f8cc5567,start X-Google-Thread: 1139f8,92bcc549f8cc5567,start X-Google-Thread: f55d3,92bcc549f8cc5567,start X-Google-Attributes: gid10f545,gid10b271,gidfa4c1,gid1139f8,gidf55d3,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, fr.sci.physique, fr.sci.maths, fr.sci.philo Subject: WHY THE PICTURE OF THE WORLD IS SCHIZOPHRENIC Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 03:25:16 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 48 Message-ID: <c11731c0-1a11-4042-9f40-b67b179bc4fe@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.91.141.166 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1199445917 5782 127.0.0.1 (4 Jan 2008 11:25:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:25:17 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=85.91.141.166; posting-account=Lz-LbgoAAABPDavKeW-eYeobwLHD_cvQ User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)