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Article #5914Re: EXPERIMENTS THAT REFUTE RELATIVITY
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 07:13
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 07:13
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On Dec 31 2007, 22:08, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in sci.physics.relativity: > John Kennaugh wrote: > > Tom Roberts wrote: > >> Make sure he has some way to derive relativistic kinematics. If one > >> restricts oneself to light propagation, there may be numerous theories > >> which explain MOST of the experiments, > > Well at least we agree there. > >> but probably not all of them. But a ballistic/emission theory of light > >> has little or no hope of being unified with a theory that includes > >> relativistic kinematics. > > > His theory is wide ranging in what it covers. Did you have anything > > specific in mind? As I have pointed out modern physics is so vast that > > it is totally beyond the capability of just one individual to come up > > with a complete and comprehensive alternative to 100 years of physics. > > The key property of all fundamental theories of modern physics is > Lorentz invariance. So that is what had better be compatible with some > alternative theory, or its proponents must re-create all of modern > physics. Yes, that is a daunting thought, but it cannot be avoided if > you want to seriously propose some other theory (be it > emission/ballistic or other). > > Of course Lorentz invariance is incompatible with a ballistic theory and > the notion that the particles of light are massless. Roberts Roberts was that a mental aberration? Have you really discovered that "Lorentz invariance is incompatible with....the notion that the particles of light are massless"? Does this have anything to do with your famous 2006 discovery: http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.physics.relativity/browse_frm/thread/8034dc146100e32c Tom Roberts, Feb 1, 2006: "If it is ultimately discovered that the photon has a nonzero mass (i.e. light in vacuum does not travel at the invariant speed of the Lorentz transform), SR would be unaffected but both Maxwell's equations and QED would be refuted (or rather, their domains of applicability would be reduced)." Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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