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Article #5953Re: PENTCHO VALEV STRUGGLES WITH SIMPLE ALGEBRA
From: Jeckyl
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:13
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:13
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"Androcles" <Engineer@hogwarts.physics_a> wrote in message news:L0xaj.80653$cJ3.19123@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk... Lets look at what you claim wrt ballistic theory > Rotation rate w > Tangential speed wR > Speed of light in rotating frame c > Velocity of light in non-rotating frame wR+c, wR-c > Distance travelled by light in rotating frame wRt, -wRt > Distance travelled by light in non-rotating frame ct+wRt, ct-wRt so distance is t(c+wR)t and t(c-wR) in the non rotating frame > t(c+wR) = t(c-wR) > OR equivalently, > t(c+v) = t(c-v) How can you equate these .. they are different values ? I think you were a bit confused in the lines above > The times are the same, the distances are different. Yes .. the times are the same in both frames in ballistic theory In the rotating frame the distance and speeds are the same. The light leaves the source travelling at speed c in opposite directions, it traverse the same distance and arrives back at the detector at the same time and the same speed travelling the same distance for a null Sagnac effect So where is the detected Sagnac effect? See http://www.users.on.net/~roger_onslow/Sagnac.html for a ballistic vs relativistic animation comparison .. no sagnac effect for ballistic theory.
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