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Article #5988Re: THE RELATIVITY OF THE LENGTH
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:09
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:09
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On Dec 16, 18:42, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Dr. Henri Wilson wrote: > > Rods don't physically change just because moving observers happen to look at > > them. > > Yes, of course. > > > If the length of a MOVING 1 metre rod is found to be anything other than 1 > > metre then either the experiment is flawed or the person performing the > > experiment is a real dickhead for even trying to measure it while it is moving. > > This is simply not true. > > If a stationary observer wants to measure the length of a moving object, > it is QUITE CLEAR that the way to do this is to mark both ends of the > moving object simultaneously, and then measure the distance between > those marks. In relativity this procedure always yields a distance > smaller than the length of the object measured in its rest frame. Of course Roberts Roberts of course. But you have only been a member of Einstein criminal cult for 15 years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqhlQfXUk7w Tom Roberts (15 years ago): "Well sir, I have a silly walk and I'd like to obtain a Government grant to help me develop it....I think that with Government backing I could make it very silly." so you are only allowed to "mark both ends of the moving object simultaneously". However superior brothers are allowed to replace this with "closing two doors simultaneously" and so they can trap a long train inside a short tunnel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSRIyDfo_mY&mode=related&search= and also a 80m long pole inside a 40m long barn: http://www.math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/barn_pole.html "These are the props. You own a barn, 40m long, with automatic doors at either end, that can be opened and closed simultaneously by a switch. You also have a pole, 80m long, which of course won't fit in the barn....So, as the pole passes through the barn, there is an instant when it is completely within the barn. At that instant, you close both doors simultaneously, with your switch. Of course, you open them again pretty quickly, but at least momentarily you had the contracted pole shut up in your barn." You will NEVER be allowed to do so Roberts Roberts. Superior brothers have considered your case and found that, despite Government backing, your walk is not silly enough. Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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X-Google-Thread: 10f545,a8aec900f839262a X-Google-Thread: 10b271,6f49f458e9e3604a X-Google-Thread: fa4c1,6f49f458e9e3604a X-Google-Thread: 1139f8,6f49f458e9e3604a X-Google-Thread: f55d3,6f49f458e9e3604a X-Google-Attributes: gid10f545,gid10b271,gidfa4c1,gid1139f8,gidf55d3,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!i3g2000hsf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, fr.sci.physique, fr.sci.maths, fr.sci.philo Subject: Re: THE RELATIVITY OF THE LENGTH Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:09:15 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 52 Message-ID: <e6172f39-96df-4eb5-9642-c4dcbd09e408@i3g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> References: <21211e4c-0606-4d34-b00f-367701a4b9ff@a35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <2hg9m312atq3csv3uivhca0lo7a1ru4ekb@4ax.com> <Hzc9j.31726$JD.9504@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.91.141.159 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1197878956 21331 127.0.0.1 (17 Dec 2007 08:09:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:09:16 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: i3g2000hsf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=85.91.141.159; posting-account=Lz-LbgoAAABPDavKeW-eYeobwLHD_cvQ User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)