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Re: SYMPTOMS OF DEAD SCIENCE

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From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:14
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An international team of leading philosophers and physicists:

http://www.amazon.com/Relativity-Simultaneity-Routledge-Contemporary-Philosophy/dp/0415701740
"Einstein, Relativity and Absolute Simultaneity is an anthology of
original essays by an international team of leading philosophers and
physicists who, on the centenary of Albert Einsteins Special Theory of
Relativity, come together in this volume to reassess the contemporary
paradigm of the relativistic concept of time."

A distinguished member of the international team of leading
philosophers and physicists:

http://philosophy.ucsd.edu/faculty/ccallender/
"On Finding 'Real' Time in Quantum Mechanics" (draft) Absolute
Simultaneity. (Eds) W.L. Craig and Q. Smith. NY: OxfordUniversity
Press, 2007.
Craig Callender: "In my opinion, by far the best way for the tenser to
respond to Putnam et al is to adopt the Lorentz 1915 interpretation of
time dilation and Fitzgerald contraction.1  Lorentz attributed these
effects (and hence the famous null results regarding an aether) to the
Lorentz invariance of the dynamical laws governing matter and
radiation, not to spacetime structure.  On this view, Lorentz
invariance is not a spacetime symmetry but a dynamical symmetry, and
the special relativistic effects of dilation and contraction are not
purely kinematical.  The background spacetime is Newtonian or neo-
Newtonian, not Minkowskian.  Both Newtonian and neo-Newtonian
spacetime include a global absolute simultaneity among their invariant
structures (with Newtonian spacetime singling out one of neo-Newtonian
spacetime's many preferred inertial frames as the rest frame).  On
this picture, there is no relativity of simultaneity and spacetime is
uniquely decomposable into space and time."

Einstein zombie world:

http://www.bnl.gov/community/Tours/EinsteinPics/Einsteine.jpg
http://www.haverford.edu/physics-astro/songs/divine.htm
http://www.physicstoday.org/vol-58/iss-7/images/devine_einstein.mp3

Pentcho Valev
pvalev@yahoo.com
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