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Article #6016Re: "The Limitations of Mathematics in Physics"
From: AKGMJC
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 06:43
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 06:43
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On Dec 11, 7:08 pm, mL <mL.bey...@elsewhere.xxx> wrote: > AKG...@gmail.com wrote: > > ... > > > Einstein did not understand secondary school mathematics just like all > > other Einsteinians. > > .. and the evidence for that statement is ? > > > Secondary school students learn that > > (x^2-y^2)/(x-y)=x+y only under the restriction that x is not equal to - > > y. > > .. so what? Did you know it? If you did why did you not see that c+c=c is not a theorem of SR? > > > All results of SR which uses LT are under the speed limit restriction > > that v<c. The relativistic addition of speed is under this > > restriction. Yet Einstein set v=c to "deduce" a "revolutionary" result > > c+c=c. > > Where did he do that? You're advised to give a reference! Ah, you did not know it! Read any elementary textt book on relativity theory. It is advatised as a "revoultion" of Einstein! > > > Einstein did not understand the difference between having a quantity > > which is zero and not having a qunatity. For example a photon which > > does not stop has not rest mass. But Einstein asserted that it has a > > rest mass which is zero. They are different things. For example, in > > scondary school maths teaches that having no slope means the line is > > vertical and having zero slope means that the line is horizontal. For > > Mr. EDinstein, there was no difference between horizontal lines and > > vertical lines. > > More unsupported statements. Apparently you just make up things. I made nothing up. You do not undertsand the logic. Having no slope and having slope which is zero are totally different things! The same applies to having no rest mass and having restmass which is zero. Einstein could not see this difference. As photon has no rest frame, in SR, photon should not have rest mass. This is different from that photon has rest mass and it is zero! Just clear thinking chap. > > > It is this type of elementary errors Einstein made, .. > > .. no examples provided -- only rarified steamware Why we need evidences. This is concerned about the theory SR itself. It is known as meta theory of SR. You must learn the distinction between empirical issues and metaptheoretical issues. You are not ready for participating in a huigh powered discussion like this. > > > ... which are > > consistent to his reputation as a secondary school maths student, > > which makes us suspect the entire theory of SR. > > .. and these 'us'es are? The standard of mathematical education now is way more ahead of Einstein's time. Even a good undergarduate maths student is way more advanced mathematically than Einstein or Minkowski. Some worship Einstein and Minkowski. Pity. A.K.
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