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From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 07:12
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On 22 Nov, 23:08, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in sci.physics.relativity: > Christoph Schiller wrote: > > The new, twenty-first edition of the freely > > downloadable physics textbook is available on > > http://www.motionmountain.eu > > [...] > > Thanks. This is an entertaining read, often with an unusual or offbeat > perspective that is interesting and rewarding. > > Tom Roberts This is the most entertaining text isn't it Roberts Roberts: Christoph Schiller: "Light can be accelerated. Every mirror does this! We will see in the chapter on electromagnetism that matter also has the power to bend light, and thus to accelerate it. However, it will turn out that all these methods only change the direction of propagation; none has the power to change the speed of light in a vacuum." Now compare Christoph Schiller's discovery (only the direction, not the speed, changes in a gravitational field) with what you and your criminal brothers have already discovered: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SpeedOfLight/speed_of_light.html Steve Carlip: "Einstein went on to discover a more general theory of relativity which explained gravity in terms of curved spacetime, and he talked about the speed of light changing in this new theory. In the 1920 book "Relativity: the special and general theory" he wrote: . . . according to the general theory of relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the special theory of relativity [. . .] cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light varies with position. Since Einstein talks of velocity (a vector quantity: speed with direction) rather than speed alone, it is not clear that he meant the speed will change, but the reference to special relativity suggests that he did mean so." http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae13.cfm Warren Davis: "So, it is absolutely true that the speed of light is _not_ constant in a gravitational field [which, by the equivalence principle, applies as well to accelerating (non-inertial) frames of reference].......Indeed, this is exactly how Einstein did the calculation in: 'On the Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light,' Annalen der Physik, 35, 1911. which predated the full formal development of general relativity by about four years. This paper is widely available in English. You can find a copy beginning on page 99 of the Dover book 'The Principle of Relativity.' You will find in section 3 of that paper, Einstein's derivation of the (variable) speed of light in a gravitational potential, eqn (3). The result is, c' = c0 ( 1 + V / c2 ) where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the speed of light c0 is measured." Tom Roberts wrote in sci.physics.relativity: > Pentcho Valev wrote: > > CAN THE SPEED OF LIGHT EXCEED 300000 km/s IN A GRAVITATIONAL FIELD? > Sure, depending on the physical conditions of the measurement. It can > also be less than "300000 km/s" (by which I assume you really mean the > standard value for c). And this can happen even for an accelerated > observer in a region without any significant gravitation (e.g. in > Minkowski spacetime). > Tom Roberts tjroberts@lucent.com Pentcho Valev
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