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Article #6105Re: PANICKY EINSTEINIANS PROVE TIME DILATION AGAIN
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:46
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:46
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On 15 Nov, 16:33, nottooo...@hotmail.com wrote: > On Nov 16, 12:21 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > The problem is whether the Doppler shift is due to time dilation or > > not. Perhaps it is due to the fact that the speed of light varies with > > the relative speed of the light source and the observer? > > That's easy, go to the library, find the published paper, check their > working, repeat the calculations assuming changing light speed, > compare the results. If it works, you then need to find there's no > research showing that light speed doesn't change in that kind of > situation. Armed with this justification, perform a suitable > experiment to show the speed really is changing. Finally, fill in the > application form to claim your Nobel prize. > > It might take a few years, but if you're sure you're right, it will be > worth the effort don't you think? No because Divine Albert has already solved half of the problem (in fact the whole problem) in 1911: http://www.blazelabs.com/f-g-gcont.asp "The first confirmation of a long range variation in the speed of light travelling in space came in 1964. Irwin Shapiro, it seems, was the first to make use of a previously forgotten facet of general relativity theory -- that the speed of light is reduced when it passes through a gravitational field....Faced with this evidence, Einstein stated:"In the second place our result shows that, according to the general theory of relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the special theory of relativity and to which we have already frequently referred, cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light varies with position."......Today we find that since the Special Theory of Relativity unfortunately became part of the so called mainstream science, it is considered a sacrilege to even suggest that the speed of light be anything other than a constant. This is somewhat surprising since even Einstein himself suggested in a paper "On the Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light," Annalen der Physik, 35, 1911, that the speed of light might vary with the gravitational potential. Indeed, the variation of the speed of light in a vacuum or space is explicitly shown in Einstein's calculation for the angle at which light should bend upon the influence of gravity. One can find his calculation in his paper. The result is c'=c(1+V/c^2) where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the measurement is taken. 1+V/c^2 is also known as the GRAVITATIONAL REDSHIFT FACTOR." http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae13.cfm "So, it is absolutely true that the speed of light is _not_ constant in a gravitational field [which, by the equivalence principle, applies as well to accelerating (non-inertial) frames of reference]. If this were not so, there would be no bending of light by the gravitational field of stars....Indeed, this is exactly how Einstein did the calculation in: 'On the Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light,' Annalen der Physik, 35, 1911. which predated the full formal development of general relativity by about four years. This paper is widely available in English. You can find a copy beginning on page 99 of the Dover book 'The Principle of Relativity.' You will find in section 3 of that paper, Einstein's derivation of the (variable) speed of light in a gravitational potential, eqn (3). The result is, c' = c0 ( 1 + V / c^2 ) where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the speed of light c0 is measured." http://www.bnl.gov/community/Tours/EinsteinPics/Einsteine.jpg http://www.physicstoday.org/vol-58/iss-7/images/devine_einstein.mp3 Pentcho Valev
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