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Re: NO SIGN OF ETHER DRIFT: WHY?

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From: Koobee Wublee
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:01
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On Nov 14, 1:30 pm, Laurent wrote:
> On Nov 14, 2:06 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:

> > Under the mathematics of the Lorentz transform, absolute simultaneity
> > is forbidden.  The mathematical manifestation of the Lorentz transform
> > is the combination of time dilation and the principle of relativity.
> > Poincare had already identified this as relative simultaneity.
> > Relative simultaneity is the root cause of the twin's paradox.  Under
> > the concept of relative simultaneity, any interference pattern cannot
> > happen.  The interferometers should not have worked.  Since
> > interferometers work so well and everytime ever so consistently, the
> > most logical conclusion is that relative simultaneity must not
> > possibly be valid.  This also means the Lorentz transform must be
> > wrong.
>
> Not what GPS technology seems to suggest. Same with interplanetary
> travel. GTR is a proven fact. Sorry.

There are other hypotheses that predict the same result.  <shrug>

Besides, it is not conclusive that GPS utilizes GR to do so.  To do
that, it requires a ground-to-satellite synchronization.  This is just
too costly and too error-prone.  In addition to the error associated
with downlink from satellite to the ground, there is just too much
error compared to satellite-to-satellite synchronization.

With physicists as consultants, GPS most likely did start out with
ground-to-satellite synchronization, but engineers quickly figured out
the unnecessary introduction of error can be eliminated if satellite-
to-satellite synchronization is implemented.
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Subject: Re: NO SIGN OF ETHER DRIFT: WHY?
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