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Article #6137Re: MICHEL JANSSEN EXPLAINS LENGTH CONTRACTION
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:14
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:14
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On Nov 13, 6:29 pm, Randy Poe <poespam-t...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Nov 13, 8:57 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >http://www.ias.umn.edu/pdf/TimeandRelativity-Janssen.pdf > > Michel Janssen: "Does Minkowski space-time, thus understood, explain > > length contraction and the phenomena examined in this talk? Yes and > > no. It explains them by showing they need no explanation." > > You forgot to add your usual misinterpretation to this. What > do you think is the significance of that statement in light > of his opening sentence? > > "I defend the widely held view challenged by Harvey Brown > in his recent book that special relativity is preferable to those > parts of Lorentz's electron theory it replaced because various > phenomena that special relativity reveals to be of purely kinematical > origin were given a dynamical explanation in Lorentz's theory." I have neither an interpretation nor a misinterpretation of length contraction because length contraction is just an idiotic corollary of Einstein's false light postulate. I am just trying to call the attention to various aspects of the idiocy. For instance, I claim that Harvey Brown CAN whereas Michel Janssen CANNOT explain how a long train can be trapped inside a short tunnel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSRIyDfo_mY&mode=related&search= or a 80m long pole can be trapped inside a 40m long barn: http://www.math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/barn_pole.html "These are the props. You own a barn, 40m long, with automatic doors at either end, that can be opened and closed simultaneously by a switch. You also have a pole, 80m long, which of course won't fit in the barn....So, as the pole passes through the barn, there is an instant when it is completely within the barn. At that instant, you close both doors simultaneously, with your switch. Of course, you open them again pretty quickly, but at least momentarily you had the contracted pole shut up in your barn." But this does not mean that Harvey Brown's interpretation is less idiotic than Michel Janssen's interpretation. Pentcho Valev
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