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Article #6174Re: IS LENGTH CONTRACTION GEOMETRICAL OR PHYSICAL?
From: RP
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 23:30
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 23:30
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On Nov 8, 1:16 pm, "Gerald L. O'Barr" <glob...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Don Stockbauer <donstockba...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > > In SR, neither "length contraction" > > > > > nor "time dilation" are physical -- they are purely > > > > > geometrical. A moving ruler does > > > > > not physically get any shorter, it is merely MEASURED > > > > > shorter by an observer relative to whom it is moving > > > > > along its length. > > > > > Ditto for clock tick-rates. > > O'Barr comments: > On The Measurements of Lengths! > > I, of course, accept LET as the best science we > now have. It is not perfect, but it is certainly > more perfect than SR. And LET explains that there is > one frame in which the actual lengths of rulers are > controlled or affected, and in which the rates of > clocks are controlled or affected. This one frame > causes all clocks to slow down with their absolute > velocity, and it causes all rulers to shorten with > their absolute velocities, at least in the direction > of their motions. > Gerald L. O'Barr <globarr...@yahoo.com> > (globarr) That premise doesn't correspond to the lorentz transform.
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