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Article #6224Re: A New Solution to the Twins Paradox, and Others
From: nessunoic
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:17
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:17
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> "For the entire outward and return parts of the trip, B does > observe A's clock running slow And this is not true. One should distinguish what observer sees with his eyes and what he calculates. If A is on earth and B is moving towards the star and back then what A sees: 1) on the way forward the processes of B are slowed due to doppler effect on receding objects (red shift) 2) on the way backward the processes of B are fastend due to doppler effect on approaching objects (blue shift) what A calculates based on his understanding of simultanious with him reality ( all the "there-now" dots that represent the current state of the world even though the light has not passed from "there-now" yet to see what actually is going on there) 1) B estimated time-flow is slower than A 2) B estimated time-flow is slower than A If u still dont understand the difference between "actually see" and "calculate/estimate to be happening there-now" then you should ask yourself: Is the Sun i see here right now and the Sun that is "there-now" the same or not ? Does the Sun "there-now" exists at all or was it probably blown or moved away by some aliens moments ago ? Is the estimated "there-now" reality a reality at all or just a projection of what the things are expected to be based on what info has reached me from the past?
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