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On 28 Oct, 17:51, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
sci.physics.relativity:
> Pmb wrote:
> >> Is Time dilation Real???
>
> > Yes.
>
> Right.
>
> > The phenomena has been detected first by the experimental work of Pound
> > and Rebka.
>
> No. They measured gravitational redshift, not time dilation. It can be
> INTERPRETED as time dilation, but is not a MEASUREMENT of it. It can
> also be interpreted without time dilation.

Roberts Roberts it is true that scientific rationality in Einstein
zombie world was destroyed long time ago so criminals like you can say
anything - nobody would ask them to elaborate. Still, in case someone
wants to know what "gravitational redshift interpreted without time
dilation" means, this could be useful:

http://www.blazelabs.com/f-g-gcont.asp "The first confirmation of a
long range variation in the speed of light travelling in space came in
1964. Irwin Shapiro, it seems, was the first to make use of a
previously forgotten facet of general relativity theory -- that the
speed of light is reduced when it passes through a gravitational
field....Faced with this evidence, Einstein stated:"In the second
place our result shows that, according to the general theory of
relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in
vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the
special theory of relativity and to which we have already frequently
referred, cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of
light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light
varies with position."......Today we find that since the Special
Theory of Relativity unfortunately became part of the so called
mainstream science, it is considered a sacrilege to even suggest that
the speed of light be anything other than a constant. This is somewhat
surprising since even Einstein himself suggested in a paper "On the
Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light," Annalen der
Physik, 35, 1911, that the speed of light might vary with the
gravitational potential. Indeed, the variation of the speed of light
in a vacuum or space is explicitly shown in Einstein's calculation for
the angle at which light should bend upon the influence of gravity.
One can find his calculation in his paper. The result is c'=c(1+V/c^2)
where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the
measurement is taken. 1+V/c^2 is also known as the GRAVITATIONAL
REDSHIFT FACTOR."

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