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Article #627Re: EINSTEINIANA: REVOLUTION AROUND THE CORNER
From: Stamenin
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 20:14
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 20:14
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On Apr 8, 9:23ย am, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote: > Pentcho Valev wrote: > > [snip crap] > > > The speed of any particle does depend on the speed of the observer: as > > the observer starts moving towards the source of the particle with > > speed v, the initial speed of the particle, V, becomes V'=V+v. > > [snip rest of crap] > > You contradicted yourself, SLAC, FermiLab, the LHC... within a mere > three lines. > > > Pentcho Valev > > pva...@yahoo.com > > Given any achievable velocities V1 and V2 and any finite lightspeed, > Lorentz invariance requires the bound on the relative velocities of V1 > and V2 as viewed by any inertial observer in 1 or 2 cannot exceed > > (V1 + V2)/[1 +(V1)(V2)/c^2] > > This is transformation of velocities parallel to the direction of > motion. ย For velocities at an arbitrary angle theta, > > u_parallel = (u'_parallel + v)/(1+(v dot u')/c^2) > u_perp = u'_perp/(gamma_v(1+(v dot u')/c^2)) > > idiot > > -- > Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ > ย (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm In reality the discussion is done about the two transformations, the LT and the GT. One of them is errant. Which one? DES CARTES AND LORENTZ My question is: The French scientist Des Carts is the author of the Cartesian coordinate system and Dutch scientist H. A. Lorentz is the author of the Lorentz Transformation. As I can realize these two discoveries are contradictory between them. Why is it so? Because the Lorentz transformation destroys the Cartesian coordinate system: Let take the LT, x1=(vt2+x2)/R, and try to calculate what values obtain for x1 if x2=2 and xโ2=5 if v=c. 1) x1=(v.t2+2)/R=(c.t2+2)/R 2) xโ1=(c.t2+5)/R, then results: 3) xโ1-x1=(c.t2+5)/R-(c.t2+2)/R=(5-2)/0=infinite. So every difference of two coordinates considered in Cartesian system becomes infinite. How can we conclude that LT is a correct mathematical relation? Or we have to consider that the Cartesian coordinate system is errant? There is evident that the limit of the light speed of 300,000km/s was a consequence of the Lorentz Transformation. The only possible conclusion is, that LT and the principle of the constancy of the light speed are errant conclusions. But if LT is errant then so errant is and the Special Relativity and Ether theory. This is the truth. Science is not politics. Stamenin
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